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Italian Journalist calls U.S. Troops liars!!!
« on: March 06, 2005, 01:05:39 PM »
Freed Journalist Recounts Ordeal

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ROME — The Italian journalist wounded by American troops in Iraq after her release by insurgents rejected the U.S. military's account of the shooting and declined Sunday to rule out the possibility she was deliberately targeted.

Meanwhile, an autopsy performed on the agent who died trying to save Giuliana Sgrena (search) reportedly showed he was struck in the temple by a single round and died instantly as the car carrying Sgrena sped to the Baghdad airport.

Friday's shooting that wounded the 56-year-old journalist and killed Italian intelligence officer Nicola Calipari as they were celebrating her freedom has fueled anti-American sentiment in a country where people are deeply opposed to U.S. policy in Iraq.

But government officials indicated the shootings would not affect the decision by Italian Premier Silvio Berlusconi (search) — a strong U.S. ally — to maintain 3,000 troops in Iraq to help secure peace in the country.

"The military mission must carry on because it consolidates democracy and liberty in Iraq," Communications Minister Maurizio Gasparri was quoted as saying by the ANSA news agency. "On the other hand, we must control — but not block — the presence of civilians and journalists, who must observe rules and behavior to reduce the risks."

Sgrena, who works for the communist daily Il Manifesto (search), did not rule out that she was targeted, saying the United States likely disapproved of Italy's methods to secure her release, although she did not elaborate.

Italian officials have not provided details about the negotiations leading to Sgrena's release Friday after a month in captivity, but Agriculture Minister Giovanni Alemanno was quoted as saying it was "very likely" a ransom was paid. U.S. officials object to ransoms, saying it encourages further kidnappings.

"The fact that the Americans don't want negotiations to free the hostages is known," Sgrena told Sky TG24 television by telephone, her voice hoarse and skaky. "The fact that they do everything to prevent the adoption of this practice to save the lives of people held hostages, everybody knows that. So I don't see why I should rule out that I could have been the target."

Sgrena added that she did not know whether a ransom was paid. Calipari had led negotiations for her release.

The U.S. military has said the car Sgrena was riding in was speeding, and Americans used hand and arm signals, flashing white lights and warning shots to get it to stop at the roadblock.

But in an interview with Italian La 7 TV, Sgrena said, "There was no bright light, no signal." She also said the car was traveling at "regular speed."

Sgrena also recalled how Calipari died after throwing himself over her when the shooting broke out as they were celebrating her freedom on the way to the airport.

"I remember only fire," she wrote in Il Manifesto, which fiercely opposed the war in Iraq. "At that point a rain of fire and bullets came at us, forever silencing the happy voices from a few minutes earlier."

Sgrena said the driver began shouting that they were Italian, then "Nicola Calipari dove on top of me to protect me and immediately, and I mean immediately, I felt his last breath as he died on me."

Suddenly, she said, she remembered her captors' words, when they warned her "to be careful because the Americans don't want you to return."

Sgrena wrote that her captors warned her as she was about to be released not to signal her presence to anyone, because "the Americans might intervene." She said her captors blindfolded her and drove her to a location where she was turned over to agents and they set off for the airport.

Calipari's body was returned to Italy late Saturday, and Berlusconi and President Carlo Azeglio Ciampi joined Calipari's wife, mother and two children at Rome's Ciampino Airport to receive it.

An autopsy was performed Sunday, and ANSA quoted doctors as saying Calipari was struck in the temple by a single round and died instantly.

The body lay in state at Rome's Vittoriano monument and a state funeral was planned for Monday. Calipari was to be awarded the gold medal of valor for his heroism.

Defense Secretary Donald H. Rumsfeld called Italy's defense minister, Antonio Martino, "to express the sorrow of the American administration, and his own personal sorrow for the death of Nicola Calipari," Italy's Defense Ministry said in a statement. The U.S. military has promised an "aggressive" investigation.

Italian military officials said two other agents were wounded, but U.S. officials said it was only one.

Iraqi politician Younadem Kana told Belgian state TV Saturday evening that he had "nonofficial" information that a $1 million ransom was paid for Sgrena's release, the Apcom news agency reported from Brussels. The report could not be confirmed.

Sgrena told Sky TG24 she had no intention of returning to Iraq. Her captors, she said, made it clear that "they do not want witnesses and we are all perceived as possible spies."

Sgrena was abducted Feb. 4 by gunmen who blocked her car outside Baghdad University. She was later shown in a video pleading for her life and demanding that all foreign troops — including Italian forces — leave Iraq.


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« Reply #1 on: March 06, 2005, 03:42:19 PM »
Yea I'd say so. Damn Italians (no pun intended) :evil:
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« Reply #2 on: March 06, 2005, 05:26:02 PM »
Innocents get killed in War zones. SO you take your chances as a reporter or do not go.
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« Reply #3 on: March 06, 2005, 08:12:11 PM »
The paper, Il Manifesto, has vigorusly opposed Italy deploying 3000 troops in Iraq.  I do not think it is beyond the realm of possibility, that her reporting of the events might be somewhat skewed, towards her papers editorial position.  Regardless, the actions of Nicola Calipari, are worthy of the highest accolades.   See I am not always a mindless liberal pawn of the leftist puppet masters.

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« Reply #4 on: March 07, 2005, 01:15:31 PM »
If she was "deliberately targeted" she'd be DEAD!  Duh!  End of argument.  :roll:

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« Reply #5 on: March 07, 2005, 06:09:45 PM »
I have to many questions to really form an opinion about this. Yes the agent should be buried with honors as he unselfishly gave his life to protect her. One of the main questions I have is you would think they would have made arrangements ahead of time to move her especially when the US is the largest force there. If they didn't heed the warnings to stop naturally the forces would think it was a car bomber. Just to many unanswered questions. :shock:
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« Reply #6 on: March 10, 2005, 08:39:02 AM »
Quote from: Shorty
If she was "deliberately targeted" she'd be DEAD!  Duh!  End of argument.  :roll:


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« Reply #7 on: March 11, 2005, 03:59:32 AM »
http://www.zachtei.nl/2005/03/08/000670.html

About Giuliana Sgrena

Mr. Harald Doornbos is a veteran war reporter. He is no archetypical hawk nor a staunch supporter of the United States. In fact, he used to be a reporter for the communist newspaper 'De Waarheid' (The Truth, or Pravda, if you like) before it went bust. (This doesn't necessarily mean he was ever a communist, by the way. De Waarheid used to be a huge employer.)

However, this doesn't make him overly sympathetic towards Giuliana Sgrena, the Italian journalist who was held hostage by Iraqi insurgents. Some snippets from this article which was published today in a Dutch Christian broadsheet.

'Be careful not to get kidnapped,' I told the female Italian journalist sitting next to me in the small plane that was headed for Baghdad. 'Oh no,' she said. 'That won't happen. We are siding with the oppressed Iraqi people. No Iraqi would kidnap us.'

It doesn't sound very nice to be critical of a fellow reporter. But Sgrena's attitude is a disgrace for journalism. Or didn't she tell me back in the plane that 'common journalists such as yourself' simply do not support the Iraqi people? 'The Americans are the biggest enemies of mankind,' the three women behind me had told me, for Sgrena travelled to Iraq with two Italian colleagues who hated the Americans as well.

(Doornbos goes on to explain how the women demeaned him for travelling as an embedded reporter with the US military, for security reasons. They didn't want to hear about any safety concerns.)

'You don't understand the situation. We are anti-imperialists, anti-capitalists, communists,' they said. The Iraqis only kidnap American sympathizers, the enemies of the Americans have nothing to fear.

(Doornbos tells them they're out of their mind.)

But they knew better. When we arrived at Baghdad Airport, I was waiting for a jeep from the American army to come pick me up. I saw one of the Italian women walking around crying. An Iraqi had stolen her computer and television equipment. They were standing outside shivering, waiting for a cab to take them to Baghdad.

With her bias Sgrena did not only jeopardize herself, but due to her behavior a security officer is now dead, and the Italian government (prime minister Berlusconi included) has had to spend millions of euros to save her life. It is to be hoped that Sgrena will decide to have a career change. Propagandist or MP perhaps. But she should give up journalism immediately.

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« Reply #9 on: March 14, 2005, 04:45:12 PM »
She is a Communist and she is employed by a communist newspaper( hence, the title)..is anyone surprised..

      Proves what a bonehead she is...millions of people that HAD to live under Communism risked their lives to get rid of the disease..and thousands more LOST their lives...
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« Reply #10 on: June 06, 2005, 11:18:25 AM »
She entered a war zone willing,  Her rescuers also did the same,, Accidents happen. I think there is alot more to this story than meets the eye. This may have been orchestrated by her,, not the accidential shooting( I sure as hell hope not) but the kidnapping.. I saw the video of her pleading for her life.. seemed off a bit. good for her carreer. I am not a conspiracy nut,, but this whole thing seems fishy.  Why would the kidnap her.. She is a outspoken comunist. They fiit in real well with the terriorist ideal. Just suspisous...