The Price of Gas

[jh45gun]

[Gun Runner]

jh, all I got was a little red  x  in the box.

I almost had to take out a loan on the house to fill the motor home up.  :-D

Gun Runner

[jh45gun]

[jgalar]

Politicians love to blame the evil oil companies and the Arabs for the gas prices. Taxes are a big chunk of the amount you pay for gas. In some places as much as 40 cents per gallon if not more.

[magooch]

The price of gas here in Washington must not have been high enough, because the #***ing politicians just raised the tax on it again.

The best price around here is $2.31.  What's the price where you guys live?

[gino]

$1.95 at "stop & rob" last Friday.
gino  :grin:

[muzzleblast525]

Can't believe gas has gone done almost .20 cents in the past month here.  Found it the other day for $2.02

[ShadowMover]

No doubt we are being held up at the gas pumps. Let's face it; they have the oil and we want it, and we are not in much of a position to bargain.  Everybody should try to do the little things that help reduce our need. Drive more slowly, anticipate the next stop, not roar up to the next guy's tail light and slam on the brakes. Plan your trips, make a list and get it all at once.

 I don't know about you but I keep my tanks full and have six five gallon cans with preserved gas on hand. What would you do if they closed the gas stations tomorrow for a week?  I still remember the gas lines of the seventies.

Another factor in the price is the US dollar is losing value compared to other currencies.  Why do you suppose the price of gold is creeping up?  The Chinese need oil too, and they are making a lot of the goodies that fill up our Walmarts and other stores. Yes, I buy there too. What do you suppose they do with those dollars we give them?  If we spend less on their junk, we won't be giving them money to buy the gas we need. Another big controversial factor is the War in Iraq. We are spending money there, which we don't have. This fact floods the world with dollars making them 'cheaper', driving up the cost of oil priced in dollars.

Drive slower and less often, spend less on foreign made junk, and vote out politicians who are allowing jobs and factories to be shipped overseas. Most of these same politicians are allowing the remaining jobs to be filled by cheap illegal labor.

Germany in WW2 and South Africa during the UN boycott both were able to manufacture motor fuel from coal. The US should set up a pilot program to start making us less dependent on foreign oil. It won't be as cheap as drilled oil, but it won't be under some enemy's control.

Look around for an older car or truck with a regular carburetor and get a propane conversion for it.  Many older vehicles can run this fuel with almost no modifications, and can switch between them with the flip of a switch. I have an old Ford truck with a 65 gallon propane tank, and two gasoline tanks. Propane is cheaper than gasoline when sold as motor fuel; but not at the rip-off BBQ tank prices.

Whatever you do will be insignificant. However, it is vitally important that you do it. - Gandhi

[unspellable]

Back in the summer of 1964 the Ford Mustang first came out with a base sticker price of $2495.  Gas sold for 28.9 cents.  I haven't priced a Musatng lately but I would imagine today's base sticker price must be $24.950 or higer.  Now let's see, ten times 28.9 cents is $2.89 per gallon.  We are not paying that around here!  I think in terms of real money gas is actually cheaper today than it was 40 years ago.

They never should's let the government print money.

[Sourdough]

I can't say anything about taxes on gas, but I can talk about the gas companies.  Here In the alaskan Interior we have only one refinery.  This one refinery makes all the aviation fuel used in Alaska.  All the diesel and gas sold in the interior and most of the gas sold in Anchorage.  The gas shipped 400 miles to Anchorage, is sold $0.10 a gallon cheaper than what it's sold here in Fairbanks.    
 
As for compatition amoungst the oil companies?  Last year I got new cards for my Texaco account, they were Shell cards.  These Shell cards are accepted at all Texaco stations here in Alaska.  Now when I receive my bills from my Chevron account, it now has a Texaco logo on the top of the bill.  What happening?  Are all the oil companies merging?  Or are they being bought out by one big entatie?

[jh45gun]

Politicians love to blame the evil oil companies and the Arabs for the gas prices. Taxes are a big chunk of the amount you pay for gas. In some places as much as 40 cents per gallon if not more.

Yea Taxes are part of it, BUT, What ticks me of is the Town I live in  has the Only Oil Refinery in WI and I would guess this area I know there is none in Northern MN that I know of or MI. We pay more for gas here than others do that have to have it trucked in. Their excuse is we live in a higher zone rate as there are more folks here the same lame excuse the insurance companies use.     :evil:  :x  :x  :evil:  :x

[unspellable]

The outfit handling your credit card an billing is probably a credit card outfit and has nothing to do with the oil company other than printing their logo on the card.  (Maybe the oil company skims off a little.)

[Archblackmage]

gas efficiency in new car was a great let down when I checked out the 2005  
International car show.  The only thing that was worth mention was a couple hybrids and the turbo diesel in the sprinter cargo van, no bio-diesel or any real alternative or efficient fuel consummation cars by the industry.    
   
http://www.see-search.com/business/fuelandpetrolpriceseurope.htm  
european and usa gas price comparision.
 
I posted some links in the truck section about bio-diesel and alt. fuels anyone interested in saying money might want to look into it.

[Leverdude]

I hate to bring it up, but with all that we've done for the Mid east in the last 50 years or so they oughtta give us the oil as compensation. Wasn't for us they'd be driving camels across the desert & the only oil they'd have would be what soaked into their turbans.

[jh45gun]

I hate to bring it up, but with all that we've done for the Mid east in the last 50 years or so they oughtta give us the oil as compensation. Wasn't for us they'd be driving camels across the desert & the only oil they'd have would be what soaked into their turbans.

True but if we would have ignored them the Russians or the Germans or French or some one else would have been there so it is probably a good thing we were there. Though the oil we get in for the local Refinery comes from Alaska.

[Num_1_Dad]

Wish I had my '88 Chevy Sprint running  :cry:  50 M.P.G.

If I had the  money to have the car imported, I would get a V.W. Lupo with the 1.7 SDI 60PS motor:
Pferdestärken* 60
Engine cubic capacity 1716
Fuel Consumption  
    Urban 47.9mpg - 5.9l/100km
    Extra-urban 78.5mpg - 3.6l/100km
    Combined 64.2mpg - 4.4l/100km
Engine emissions 119g/km
Engine noise levels 73.0dB
Engine maximum Speed** 97 mph - 157km/h
Engine acceleration 0-62mph 16.8secs
Maximum output PS 60
    at RPM 4200
Maximum torque 84 lbs.ft / 115 Nm
    at RPM 2200
Insurance group rating 3

http://www.volkswagen.co.uk/new_cars/lupo

[Sourdough]

I've driven a Lupo, it's OK for around town or as a short commuter.  I would not want to take it on a long trip, or drive it in a rural setting with rough roads.  Rides like a log wagon.  If someone screws up on the crew they are put in the Lupo for the next week or so.  Depending on how bad the boss ticked off.  

What's happened to cars in the last 20 years?  Milage is going in the wrong direction.  My 82 Honda Civic gave me 52 miles per gallon.  Now they are down in the 30s.  Those big land yaughts I learned to drive on in the 50s got high teens to mid twenties.  My first car a 55 Ford, with a small V-8 got 24 MPG on the highway and would do 110 MPH with a three speed transmission.  Today with all our new technology milage has gone down drastically.  Don't say "It's the smog equipment" either.  I've stripped the smog equipment off several trucks over the years and milage only went up 2 to 3 MPG, not much of a gain.  Far less than I expected.  In fact one late 80s 3/4 ton Chevy truck actually had the MPG go down without the smog gear.