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« on: May 26, 2005, 04:07:48 AM »
Meekins: I Pray the Lord… my firearm I get to Keep

By Frederick Meekins

During the American Revolutionary War, the Black Regiment was a unit composed of pastors who defended freedom with a Bible in one hand and a musket in another. Had these patriots lived in our day rather than in a time when liberty was taken a bit more seriously, they would no doubt been defrocked and possibly turned over to police. If a ceremony held at the Hispanic Baptist Church of Laurel is to serve as any kind of template, these actions could all be carried out in a single, sweeping act of casearopapism.

According to the March 24, 2005 edition of the Laurel Leader, Miguel Reymaga stood before the congregation of the Laurel Hispanic Baptist Church to profess his new found faith in Christ. But instead of engaging in a traditional Christian ritual such as baptism or communion as an outward testament, Mr. Reymaga surrendered his shotgun and rifle.

Mr. Reymaga confessed he wanted the guns out of his home because of his tendencies towards temper and booze. While he is to be commended for his dedication to his family, he is ultimately being manipulated by authority figures whose primary interest is not the welfare of this particular individual but rather their own social agenda designed to accrue power unto themselves and to further curtail what few God-given freedoms we have remaining.

The Leader article chronicles that Reymaga went to his pastor to arrange for him to turn the guns over to police. But couldn’t this be done without turning the transaction into a public spectacle with the mayor, chief of police, and the editor of the newspaper himself all there to exploit the situation for the benefit of their own anti-Constitutionalism?

Interesting, isn’t it, how liberals yammer incessantly about the Separation of Church and State but don’t mind conspiring in league with religion and using its powers of persuasion when there is common cause between the politically inept and the theologically confused? This congruence is especially dangerous to life and liberty when this alliance attempts to extend its control into areas over which neither was meant to influence.

At this ritual rendering homage to the omnipotent state, the chief of police said, “You made the right decision...We are very much concerned about gun safety in this community. I think all of you are aware of the danger of drinking...and having a gun somewhere in the house.” Is anyone else concerned about a law enforcement officer in an official capacity at a public function enunciating policy preferences in no way backed by law?

Though the opponents of human liberty constantly labor to alter the statutes, it’s still legal to own guns in America. Are the police going to pressure us into giving up other things we are within the bounds of legal propriety to use or enjoy?

The Chief tried to buttress his position by emphasizing the danger of drinking while there is a firearm in the house. So why not have a service where the convert hands over his liquor instead --- guns are just as legal as booze, after all. But such a suggestion wouldn’t go over to well in an Hispanic church since most of the congregation probably have refrigerators full of Coronas and enough glass in their recycle buckets to make Robert Schuller blush.

Obviously, Reymaga is not the smartest bean in the burrito, yet he is merely parroting a number of misconceptions rampant throughout contemporary Evangelical social theory. Reymaga said, “I don’t need these weapons because I have God in my heart...Take your weapons out of your homes.”

If we are to apply his logic and that of his ecclesiastical overseers that we don’t have to protect ourselves since God will do that for us, then why did he come here from Mexico - initially as an illegal - to provide for his family since God is ultimately the one we look to to provide for our needs?

Those more opposed to firearms than they are in favor of commonsense will counter - if they are not yet totally warped by the welfare mentality - that the Bible tells us to work to secure provisions but to turn the other cheek when faced with assault.

While that might be the advice of the limp-wristed girlie-man Jesus of pop religion, it is not that of the Jesus of the Bible there in the black and white (or red letter edition) who commanded His disciples in Luke 23:36 to acquire a sword if they did not have one. If we want a complete Christology, don’t we have to incorporate this axiom into our view of Jesus as well?

The right to bear arms also entails its opposite in that one does not have to own a firearm. But this is a personal decision the individual must make for themselves. To borrow and modify a line from the abortionists: if you don’t want a gun, don’t buy one.

For if members of the congregation find themselves in a situation where they are forced to protect themselves, will the pastor come riding to the rescue as the masked clergyman? Laurel is not the town it use to be; Islamic extremists, Hispanic gangs, and other run-of-the-mill human debris now crisscross this once respectable middle class neighborhood as they foment destruction and mayhem.

Perhaps these radical pacifists - instead of promoting proper firearms safety - would rather stand over a child’s coffin and tell parents they did the right thing surrendering their own better judgment on the church altar and allowing the dregs of society to get away with shedding innocent blood. Unless the pastor is willing to do so, let the parents decide.

http://www.federalobserver.com/archive.php?aid=9838

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« Reply #1 on: May 28, 2005, 07:24:16 AM »
Heck we will all be able to keep our guns. We put Pro Gun GWB in office the Republicans control both houses. Heck look at all the Pro Gun bills they have passed for us. Nothing but traitors! Been Republican all my life but now look it it being you know were the Democrates are coming from better. As far as guns the Republicans want to take them away just as bad as the Democrates. Only difference is the time frame they are working on

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« Reply #2 on: May 28, 2005, 09:51:24 AM »
I agree!  I'd vote for Nancy Pelosi because there's the same chance I'll lose my guns with her president as GWB.  Of course maybe that's reactionary crazy-talk...  

GWB let the assault weapon ban die (he could have gotten it through congress if he'd wanted) despite public support FOR the ban.  Did you read the Justice Department statement on 2nd amendment?  Do you have any idea how tort liability (very strongly supported by GWB and congress) will help the gun industry and dealers?  I wonder if a Supreme Court Justice appointed by a Liberal would support the second amendment, to say nothing of social issues?

The line of logic: "since the current administration hasn't  spent it's time creating and signing pro-gun bills they are equal to the democrats" is simply wrong.  

You can vote for whomever you choose of course, but I’d hope you’d look at the big picture.

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« Reply #3 on: May 28, 2005, 12:17:13 PM »
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GWB let the assault weapon ban die (he could have gotten it through congress if he'd wanted) despite public support FOR the ban.  Did you read the Justice Department statement on 2nd amendment?  Do you have any idea how tort liability (very strongly supported by GWB and congress) will help the gun industry and dealers?  

1- He let the AWB ban die because he needed the support of the gun owners. Remember he also said he favors regulating the gun shows?
2- I to read the Justice Dept statement on the 2nd. You see who he put in as AG?
3- The gun manufacture liability bill you say he favors so much. You really think if he wanted it so bad it wouldn't be on his desk by now?
I voted for him twice. The only time I haven't voted for a Republican President was when George Wallace was running. Don't think for a sec. GWB is Pro 2nd amendment We have lost more freedom under GWB then any President I can think of. When we had a 10 year banquet for having a CCW law in AZ I went to it. It was before the election. One on one I talked to leaders of almost every Pro Gun group their is and a few Pro Gun authors. All any would say was GWB was less Anti Gun then Kerry. Not one looked at GWB as being Pro Gun and Pro 2nd amendment. You really think GWB is a conservative?

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« Reply #4 on: May 30, 2005, 10:57:19 AM »
you have the right to vote for anyone you want.  if you think Kerry would have been more pro-second amendment you're simply wrong, but it's still your right to vote that way.  i only hope most people don't agree with you.

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« Reply #5 on: May 30, 2005, 01:09:56 PM »
I know the Kerry was against the 2nd amendment, I also know GWB isn't Pro 2nd amendment. He is on his 2nd term and I challenge anyone to name one Pro Gun bill GWB has pushed. He is less gun control then Kerry was but  it's a mistake to think he is Pro Gun. With a Republican in the White House and Republicans in control of both houses you could pass any Pro Gun bill that come up or un do the damage that has been done to our rights in the past. What has anyone seen done? Their is a big difference between being less Anti Gun and being Pro Gun

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« Reply #6 on: May 30, 2005, 01:18:24 PM »
Have to add the country is in a hell of a shape when the highest office in the land you have a choice between a GWB and a John Kerry. Wonder what the founding fathers would think of that choice givenhow fast we are loosing the freedoms they fought for. No one can name anyone in DC who can even come close to relating to the common working man. We have become a country of the Elite by the Elite and for the Elite. Don't think the founding fathers wanted it that way. Look at all the politicans have done that the majority of Americans didn't want. Don't think for a second that who you want to run for office makes any difference. The Elite pick and choose