Author Topic: newbie to conicals (Read 803 times)

dispatch 510 · « **on:** May 14, 2005, 11:24:33 AM »

:? About 6 months ago I bought a traditions 45 cal,new in the box at a good deal. up to that point all i had were 50 cals and a 32.shooting nothing but PRB, I want to try some conicals for deer hunting out of this rifle,keeping the max distance around 40 yds,that is about the farthest shot i will get where i hunt. any suggestions on loads bullets and so forth. thanks in advance.

KING · « **Reply #1 on:** May 14, 2005, 02:51:14 PM »

Dispatch...................I think that rifle of yours is a good rifle,one of my friends just got one and it seems to shoot rather well with PRB. I am not sure about the twist rate but do think it might be about 1:66 or fairly close. I dont have the spects in front of me to look at. If it is 1:48 or so I think I would try the Buffalo Bullets that are all lead and have a beeswax type of lub on them. Again,I dont have the guns specs with me but 60 grns of Black over one of these will put a deer down at that range rather well. Each rifle is a critter unto its own so you alwso might want to give some of thier Bal-ets or something like this a try also. They should work to a good degree in the twist rates that I mentioned above......your gun might do better or worse....at any rate......they are good thumpers on game. stay safe.King

lonewolf7396 · « **Reply #2 on:** May 15, 2005, 02:30:50 AM »

you may want to look at the REAL CONICAL out of that 45 cal. I myself like to use black powder in 3f made by Goex in all my guns,also a wad under the conical may help,there is a guy over on e bay and he also has his onwn web site ,BLACK JACK HILL

jgalar · « **Reply #3 on:** May 15, 2005, 03:28:08 PM »

You didn't mention which Traditions gun you have or the rate of twist, but I also like the Lee REAL bullets. I don't have a 45 but the 50s are accurate in my guns and very quick and easy to load. If you have a slow twist the lighter weight should shoot OK, if you have an inline with a fast twist try the heavier. I cast my own, but as lonewolf7396 stated there is a website where you can order them ready made. If you do a search on this forum you should be able to find the site. I use a mixture of crisco and bees wax as the lube.

astrix · « **Reply #4 on:** May 15, 2005, 06:11:14 PM »

http://www.blackjackhill.com/

This guy has good prices on his cast bullets
incluing the REAL's and shipping is included.

dispatch 510 · « **Reply #5 on:** May 16, 2005, 01:48:39 AM »

Thanks guys for all the info.The rifle that i bought is a hawkin style 44 inches long with a 26 inch barrel. On the barrel it says traditions 45 cal blk powder only. it has a color case hardened lock,brass but plate brass nose cap,brass barrels for the ram rod, the stock is hardwood of some kind.but has a bueatiful grain.over all it is a very nice rifle.also has double set triggers. but it does not say what the barrel twist is. I thought that i would contact traditions and see what the can tell me about the barrel twist. I have got a catalog from traditions that is about 2 yrs old,this rifle is not in it.Any info that any of you would be greatly appreiciated.thanks in advance.

dispatch 510 · « **Reply #6 on:** May 16, 2005, 05:50:00 AM »

Contacted traditions about my 45 cal. the name of it is a frontier it has a 1-66 twist barrel. so i guess i will shoot prbs out of this one to. thanks to everyone that responded to my questions.

WD45 · « **Reply #7 on:** May 21, 2005, 07:19:07 AM »

Now Just cause it's a slow twist doesn't mean it wont shoot a conical of some type accurate enough to kill deer :-) My old CVA 45 shoots very well with hand cast Maxi balls and has taken quite a few deer.
Don't give up before trying. Your rifle may not shoot them well .. But then again .. It May.. You'll never know without given it a shot :grin:

crow_feather · « **Reply #8 on:** May 21, 2005, 09:36:59 PM »

REAL bullets were made in two weights/sizes. The shorter size will probably work in the 1:66 twist as long as heavy charges are not used. Start with a low/medium charge - 40 grains 3f - and work up until you loose accuracy.

C F

dodd3 · « **Reply #9 on:** June 01, 2005, 03:17:17 AM »

hi all i have a pedersollie 54 tryon rifle its an old model with a .530 bore and groves .542, its ment to have a 1:66 twist but mine is an erley 80/s model which i have a catalog fore, and it say 1:48 twist . well i started shooting real bulets and was a real tack driver so i got a lee .533 mini mould tride that again a tack driver but had to swob after every shot . so i got a custom sizeing die frome lee .529 and still have tack driver 415 grn mini 120 grn c&h black powder mv is 1585 fps average 1-1/2 inch group of sticks at 50 meters, so never no untill you try all load combos. i allso holow point the mini grate on pigs no dear here in west oz
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