Author Topic: Remington Managed-Recoil (Read 1369 times)

7magWoodsman · « **on:** August 18, 2004, 01:17:38 AM »

Anyone used em? According to the ballistic tables it turns the 7mag into a 7mm mauser(7x57) Might be a good choice for those deep hardwoods hunts?

Any opinions?

TNrifleman · « **Reply #1 on:** August 23, 2004, 09:27:35 AM »

I don't have any experience with Remington's new reduced recoil ammunition. I think it is an interesting and innovative concept. With careful selection, this ammo could be used by those seeking to reduce recoil for young hunters or others, and also like you suggest , for specific hunting situations. Time will tell whether or not hunters and shooters will buy into the concept. BTW, the 7X57 is one of my favorite whitetail deer cartridges.

7magWoodsman · « **Reply #2 on:** August 23, 2004, 07:26:20 PM »

The next time I go to Wal-Mart I think I am going to grab a box just to try them, I guess that won't hurt anything. I myself, am quite fond of the old 7x57 too. :-)

Graybeard · « **Reply #3 on:** August 24, 2004, 04:15:54 AM »

I see it as the answer to a question that should never need to be asked.

If you can't take the recoil of the chambering then don't buy that danged rifle to begin with. Buy one with less recoil. Geez this magnum mania the magazines have brought on folks. Now so many folks have rifles they can't deal with the recoil of a brand new industry will pop up to turn those rifles into what the folks should have bought to begin with.

7magWoodsman · « **Reply #4 on:** August 24, 2004, 04:49:03 AM »

Quote from: Graybeard

I see it as the answer to a question that should never need to be asked.

If you can't take the recoil of the chambering then don't buy that danged rifle to begin with. Buy one with less recoil. Geez this magnum mania the magazines have brought on folks. Now so many folks have rifles they can't deal with the recoil of a brand new industry will pop up to turn those rifles into what the folks should have bought to begin with.

I know what your saying about the "magnum mania" but....

I have been using the 7mm Rem. Mag for 10 years now and have absolutely no problem at all with the recoil....I was just interested in the ballistics of the M.R. because, although I prefer to stay with "one gun" if possible, I "sometimes" feel I am way over-powered for the situation. It has nothing to do with me wanting to actually "manage" the recoil. also my scope has the "twin zero" feature so I could easily use two different factory loads effectively.

Also when I finally saved up the money to get my first 7mag, I was not influenced by a magazine but rather a neighbor that let me shoot his, I fell in love, so to speak. :grin:

flintlock · « **Reply #5 on:** August 24, 2004, 11:26:47 AM »

Unfortunately a lot of younger hunters don't have a dad to help steer them in the right direction...they have no clue as to what it really takes to kill a deer....I can see a use for them...especially for hunters that have problems handling recoil, or even letting less experienced hunters use to gain more experience...Once a shooter starts flinching, its a hard problem to fix...flintlock

JPSaxMan · « **Reply #6 on:** August 25, 2004, 01:53:13 PM »

And how about those hunters who are older (not mentioning any names :wink: )....and only getting older and maybe can't handle ol' faithful on the rack anymore. Maybe their old .270 is starting to feel like a .50 BMG. But either way, either point of view, we have to admit, it is an almost near amazing concept. For those who are interested in more info on the Managed-Recoil line of ammunition, here is the web page: http://www.remington.com/ammo/centerfire/managed_recoil.htm

Graybeard · « **Reply #7 on:** August 25, 2004, 06:13:56 PM »

Boy do I resemble that remark.

Both of my shoulders are shot. Dunno if it's all the recoil all those years, old age or what. I need rotator cuff surgery on both sides I'm told. I tell them yeah I agree but for now let's just do cortisone shots and keep on putting it off as long as possible.

I don't shoot any of them much at the bench anymore like I used to. When I do it is with lots of recoil protection. My heavy is a .30-06 and it is used VERY sparingly.

I believe when a person gets to that stage in life as I have now a different gun is in order. I now have a .243 and .260 Rem that will be getting the nod more and more. Plus I use handguns a lot. But my arthritis is making me cut way back on the power level there too.

JPSaxMan · « **Reply #8 on:** August 25, 2004, 06:16:27 PM »

Well GB, that's a pretty sad case. But...I see it definetly doesn't let you down. But I guess my point was well proven. And I have to hand it to ya "flintlock", you're right about that flinch thing. B/c when I used my old CVA muzzleloader, it was so un-reliable I was flinching in anticipation for the shot that sometimes never came. So...I and some other people have been down that road once or twice before.

Jeff-B · « **Reply #9 on:** August 04, 2005, 06:13:12 PM »

how about using the managed-recoil in a 300 winchester mag to reduce the meat damage to deer ...not because of fear of recoil or flinching? not all of us can afford more than a gun or 2 and this gives us the option to hunt a broader range of animals with one gun. i wouldnt use them in a semi-auto cause it may not cycle correctly. but otherwise i see no problem with them, and it seems a whole lot safer than using (for example) federal 30-06 to win 300 mag type ammo. just my 2 cents....

Rummer · « **Reply #10 on:** August 05, 2005, 02:54:39 AM »

I think the Managed recoil loadings are a great idea. It makes rifles chambered for rounds like the .308 and .30-06 that much more versatile for folks who don't reload.

My Dad developed a reduced load in the .308 when I was a kid. Ballistically it was probably somewhere between a .30-30 and a .300 savage, but the core-lokt is a soft bullet (at least the .30/150 variety is) and I think it does better throttled back a little. In fact I have seen remington's 150 grain .308 factory load blow up on the shoulders of a few different deer.

That load was accurate, fun to shoot (and I shot it a lot!), relatively inexpensive to load, and killed deer handily. In fact Dad has used his .308 loaded a little on the light side ever since, and never had a problem in the woods.

Rummer

texagun · « **Reply #11 on:** August 05, 2005, 05:06:06 AM »

I've tried them from the bench with 3 different 270's. They are very pleasant to shoot...recoil is about like a .243 and accuracy is good. They group within an inch of the 130 gr. CoreLokts. According to the ballistic tables, they should be effective out to about 200 yds...they really begin to fall off after that. I agree with those who say they will make great starter loads for those who might be bothered by more recoil.

Grizer · « **Reply #12 on:** August 05, 2005, 05:13:03 AM »

Hi, Greybeard. In my neck of the woods, we call cortisone, "geezer grease". We need to find wholesale outlet for it.