photos of drilling

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my son helped me download these photos for all to see  a highly engraved drilling 16 gax 16ga x  8.7   72r (360).  the rifle shoots oversized  357 bullets 200 grains at 1500 feet per second..  i shot a three shot 2 1/2 inch group off rest last sunday..  took much work tho as the bullet is barely seated in the case, and it took me months to figure this out..  very litle data on these rare guns and my constant fear was ringing the barrel with under/overload.. this is a 1926 german made drilling- krup steel.. made in suel germany.. flip up sight, cocking indicators, buffalo horn basket weave carved  butt cap, modified- full choke, ..  its spoiled me rotten.. it has very little recoil doesnt slap the face and with 27 inch barrels can hold it own on the trap line.  for some reason it fits me perfectly and i shot one 25 and lots of 24's  last summer..  the shogun barrels are bent up or some kind of regulating  method as rib is flat on barrel and cheek does not need to be raised to shot on at 40 yards.. the rifle shoots high and to the right probably becouse it was regulated for black powder.. im not sure.. it has ratchet rifling which was common in this era with black powder and paper patch bullets.. but thats a question that is tough to find answeres for..  if you ever get one of these dont alter it in ANY way..  it will shoot fine, the masters knew what they were doing. many of these fine guns are ruined every year by altering, butt pads, rechambering, etc etc..    gun can be seen at   http://www.geocities.com/funkyjs/Gun.html    dave...

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bullets left to right on first picture are 300 win mag,. 45-70,.  8.7x72r,. .16 ga 2 1/2,. 12 ga 2 3/4.... dave

[myronman3]

i am scared just thinking about what one of those might cost.

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actually nice old drillings can be had for less than new sxs moderate quality guns..  start llooking for old shotguns their are some real values out there drillings or sxs..  id be carefull of buying altered guns tho. it would in myopionion reduce value alot. dave..

[Tom H.]

Always wanted a Drilling and picked up this one last winter.   The 7mm rimmed is a great cartridge and there is nothing wrong with the double 16.
 Hunting with a Drilling is great .  With all that steel around the rifle barrel they tend to be quite accurate and as a shotgun they can be pretty useful as well (shot a 24/25 in trap).
The rifle trigger also usually has a "set" position if you push it forward.

This rifle had some problems but they didn't take too much time and effort to fix.  I probably put another 10 hours into the gun to make it "right".  It is an excellent 200yd deer rifle.

http://www.hunt101.com/img/235302.JPG

5F is right, they may be the best buy around.

Tom

[Tom H.]

5F,
The problem you are having with the groups in your drilling aren't uncommon.
Mine originally shot 4"high and 1.5 left. (lighter slugs shot higher )
I reshaped the front bead for windage and deepened the notch and did a little stoning on the rear to correct it.  You wouldn't know the difference.

Use the list in Brownells to compare the distance between sights and the correction in .001 to do what you have to.  you may have to remove less than you think.

Good luck

Tom

[FinHunter]

Hi all, and greetings from Finland...
 
Was pleased to find a topic about drillings on your forum...I suppose its not that usual in the US with these kind of combination guns?
Well anyways, here is a couple pics of my drilling, its a Merkel 90S, 12/70 x2 , with a rifle barrel in 7x57R (. 284 rimmed)... it has a claw mounted Leopold 2-7x33 on it..I use this drilling for all kinds of hunts, smallgame, deers and moose here in Finland...
 
http://img142.exs.cx/img142/8263/drilling0020sj.jpg
 
http://img142.exs.cx/img142/5981/drilling0019gg.jpg
 
http://img142.exs.cx/img142/6950/vitsvanshjort0rs.jpg

here is a small whitetail buck, shot with the drilling..i used a Norma (soft pointed) Oryx, with a 156 grain bullet...

[Tom H.]

Finhunter,
It would be nice to find those types of rings here (the type that fits around the objective lens)
How does that 7x57 work on moose?
Nice hunting rifle.

Tom

[FinHunter]

Tom,  
 
I think that 7x57R works nicely on moose, have to say that i´ve only shot 1 but it worked very well. For moose i use RWS TIG 11,5 grams and for deer Norma 10,1 grams.  From here you can find a firm here in Europe that makes the rings you bescribed.
Don't know about ordering the parts to the US, and the fitting has to be done by a very experienced gunsmith, if the job is done poorly you´ll never hit the same spot twice with your drilling...

[Tom H.]

Thank you for the link FinHunter.

I could not go any further than the link as you posted it.  I am still pretty interested in some of that.  I could probably make the rings myself, but I am sure that it wouldn't be worth the effort.

Thanks

Tom

[Drilling Man]

I own two drillings, both Krieghoffs.  One is 16x16x 8x57jrs, and the other is 16x16x 30-06.

  That 8x57jrs was made in 1935, and the 30-06 i bought new in the early 80's, both shoot excelent!!!!

  I've taken everything from coyotes, bear, blk tail and white tail deer, moose, havoilna, ducks, pheasants, ptarmigan ect. ect.. .. with the old one, as i've drug it all over the Alaskan bush and some of the lower 48 too.

  Both of my drillings are scoped, and have accessories like Krieghoff insert bbls...  ect...

  Here's some normal groups from the 30-06 bbl...

  Drilling Man

[Bengt]

Hi,

I post a picture of my Sauer & sohn drilling that I mounted an Aimpoint 7000L Scope. Please read the full story about the gun on:

http://www.drillinggun.com/Dart/8/sauer--sohn-model-30-eng

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Best regards,
Bengt A Wanergard, Sweden

[Bengt]

The Royal Gun Supplier Widforss in Sweden have an auction in May. Lots of nice pictures of several common and uncommon drillings and Combo.

Attach a photo of a beautiful Vierling! A four barrel gun that cost a fortune.

 

The link to the pictures is http://www.widforss.se/auktion/auktion_v05/kombi.html

In swedish only I'm afraid of. Nice pictures anyway.

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[dougk]

Bengt,
could you translate...  Just Kidding.

Nice Pictures...

[Drilling Man]

A  friend of mine has a Vierling.  His is 16x16 x 8x57R (.318 bore) and 22 vierling.  Man is it ever nice!!!  It's the same size as my old drilling and weighs just under 7 pounds!!!  I think it's Austrian made?

  He bought it many years ago, and it seems to me he paid around $4,500.00 for it then??

  He also owns the  double rifle that "Taylor" (the famous Ivory Hunter)  used in Africa for many years.  I think it's chambered in 500/450??  I believe he paid $11.000.00 for that!!!  He has many letters and other documents to prove who owned it and for how long.

  He's NOT a rich guy, he just works his tail off, and spends it all on his hobby!!

  Drilling Man

[kombi1976]

I'm guessing your friend has to use custom bullets then.
Woodleigh is the only company I aware of who make a .318 bullet, a 200gn RNSN.
Are you sure his double isn't in 450/400?
It was a very popular cartridge in Africa around that time and numerous old double are chambered for it.
I'd love a drilling myself but it won't happen real soon.
Sadly, the sort of money it would cost me would be better invested in a house.

[Drilling Man]

I'm guessing your friend has to use custom bullets then.
Woodleigh is the only company I aware of who make a .318 bullet, a 200gn RNSN.
Are you sure his double isn't in 450/400?

  Actually, i made the .318" bullets for him, and loaded his ammo, that is, when we lived close enough for that to happen.

  I just no longer remember what the double was chambered for?  It's been a LONG time!!  Some place i have some of Taylors books, and i bet he talks about it in one of them if not more than one.....

  Drilling Man