Author Topic: Advice please. (Read 832 times)

jeager106 · « **on:** June 22, 2005, 11:02:20 PM »

O.K. after reading several posts I've come to the conclusion that there are many serious airgunners here and a lot of knowledge.
I have three airguns.
A break neck Gamo 1000 shadow. No questions about this one. it's JUNK!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I have an RWS M-54 with Simmons ProAir A.O. .177 caliber.
It's shoots very well indeed. 0.5" at 30 yards is normal and it's got plenty of kick butt with the Crossman Premier heavy pellet which it prefers.
I have a M-48 in .22 with 4 X 16 RWS made in Korea scope.
The scope is JUNK! It's broken at the moment and after about 6 months it started shifting impact every other Tuesday or when the weather changed, or when you tied your shoes wrong, etc.
I'll see if RWS will honor they "limited lifetime" warranty on the scope.
I'm rather surpirsed the Simmons Pro Air held up on the violent recoil of the M-54 but it's been on about three years without a hic up.
I have a M-52 RWS in .177 on it's way to me.
O.K. so I'm fickle and bought it from an auction sight vertually new.
Air guns is fun.
The question is:
Is the Simmons ProAir 4 X 12 that I want to buy going to hold up as well as the fixed 4 X Pro Air on the M-54?
I know variable can be more delicate than fixed power scopes.
The next question.
What do I gain from a tune up on one of the RWS guns, the 48, the 54, or the 52 and how much will a tune cost and who does this kind of work?
The next question is:
Who wants to buy the Gamo 1000? :roll: :roll:
And finally, should I get the RWS "C" mount for the M-52 or the Brownells same type mount.
I really welcome any and all opinions on this.

Mac11700 · « **Reply #1 on:** June 23, 2005, 05:45:34 AM »

From what I've read about him...he does really good work...Paul Watts..

http://www.springgunning.com/TunePrice.html

You can check out why he says to tune and what you get here..
http://springgunning.com/tune.html

As far as mounts go...I've heard these were some of the best ones around...I haven't used any of them yet..http://bkltech.com/Merchant2/merchant.mvc?Screen=CTGY&Store_Code=BKL&Category_Code=200\

This gentleman sells them too...and doesn't charge shipping on them...http://www.cz452.com/

Since you have the Mod.54...this might be of interest to you...http://www.eddiecolwell.tzo.com/RWS-54.htm

Hope that helps...

Mac

VictorLouis · « **Reply #2 on:** June 23, 2005, 08:36:41 AM »

Once you have the 54, I'm hard-pressed to see why you would want the ones WITH the recoil, LOL.

Here's the forum from RifleScopes.com....

http://www.opticstalk.com/forum_topics.asp?fid=5

dave · « **Reply #3 on:** June 23, 2005, 03:56:16 PM »

If you want any scope to last on a model 54, get it tuned. Stock guns are very harsh, very rough on scopes. Tuned guns are far easier on scopes, and with a good tune a scope will last a long time. The 54 does recoil, and recoils hard. The shooter is isolated from the recoil so you really don't notice it. The scope really takes a beating though. A tuned gun is a lot smoother, has less vibration, and shoots more consistantly, so the scope gets a lot less shock and the gun is more accurate. My .22 54 has a Maccari Monolith kit in it, and so far hasn't damaged a scope in 2 years.
However, the same can't be said for rings. Stay away from the RWS C mounts and the B-Square adjustable AA mounts. My 54 broke a set of the AA mounts in less than 200 shots. The C mounts are way too delicate and have far too many little adjustment screws that will come loose from the recoil of the 54. I have a Beeman 1 piece adjustable mount on mine. So far not one screw has come loose, and the scope has not moved a bit.
Heres a link to another tuner thats generally recognized as one of the best
http://www.airgunshow.net/Bestunes.htm

jeager106 · « **Reply #4 on:** June 23, 2005, 06:18:47 PM »

Dave:
Talk to me about your 54.
It's a .22.
What do you use it for. Did you install this kit yourself? How much does this kit cost? How's your accuarcy with what pellet at what distance?
Do you need to do anything to assist teh action slidding in the stock, i.e. lube of some sort? Beeswax maybe?
Inquiring minds don'cah'know?

dave · « **Reply #5 on:** June 24, 2005, 11:36:51 AM »

OK , heres the scoop on my 54. Its an older gun, about 10 years or so. I bought it a couple years ago from a guy in Florida named Orlando Delavalle. He's an airgun builder/tuner/dealer of sorts. He installed the Monolith kit in the gun. JM doesn't make the Monolith anymore, just the GSI for the model 54. Its about $60. You could install it yourself, but I wouldn't reccommend it if you've never tuned a gun before. However, you really should look into getting a better spring, since factory springs tend to fail early.

http://www.airguns.citymax.com/page/page/251488.htm

I use my 54 mostly for keeping the squirrel population from overrunning the place. Its effective well out past 50 yards, and quite accurate. I have dropped them easily past the 50 yard mark. Crosman Premiers seem to work well in my gun, but there's no guarantee they will work in yours.
The recoil sled does have an adjustment. Use the link to Eddie Colwells 54 page, theres a description and pictures of how to use it.

jeager106 · « **Reply #6 on:** June 24, 2005, 03:17:28 PM »

Thanks Dave, What a wonderful helpful bunch of guys.

By the way, my 54 is about ten years old also and I bought it last year on an auction site for 350 bucks with fixed 4 X Pro Air.
According to the owner it was fired with Premier heavies and that's all I have shot through it.
I've tried othere pellets, but the premier heavies are best.
I has less than 1500 pellets thru it and the scope is fine so far.
Thanks again for the tips.
The linc to the 54 page was simply awesome.