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powderman · « **on:** July 21, 2005, 03:33:04 AM »

The news is showing more explosions in London. The Godless ones doing their mohameds work. POWDERMAN. :cry: :cry: :cry: :cry: :evil: :evil: :evil: :evil: :twisted: :twisted: :twisted: :twisted:

jh45gun · « **Reply #1 on:** July 21, 2005, 08:39:20 AM »

Well we knew it was not going to stop with just 911 or the bombings in Spain or England. Just fighting in Afganistan and Iraq is not going to stop it as these pukes are every where. Jim

Qtip · « **Reply #2 on:** July 21, 2005, 03:40:04 PM »

"pukes are everywhere"

That's the problem. If "moderate, peace-loving Muslims" start to flip in their for being terrorists/supporters of, or suspected of- that would go a long way to help. But I don't think it will happen. Basically they stick together(we should take a lesson from that). Maybe we should shut down their mosques and round them up from everywhere and ship them back to country of origin. Just the mention of that would get many of them ratting each other out?

Qtip
Soli Deo Gloria!
To God Alone Be The Glory!

powderman · « **Reply #3 on:** July 21, 2005, 04:58:18 PM »

When hatred and viloence is preached in a mosque, that iman should be arrested and deported, and the mosque destroyed. Some of them are as mad dogs, and their mosques are their lairs. POWDERMAN. :x :x :x :x

fe352v8 · « **Reply #4 on:** July 21, 2005, 09:42:20 PM »

If you are going to be morally superior, you might as well be technologically equal

Just Google Anarchy Today, and you can make the same toys used on the London underground.

Now you are longer stuck just ranting, you can give them a dose of their own medicine.

Of course, if you do, your moral superiority goes down the toilet, but hey, sounds like you already flushed the First Amendment anyhow.

By the way how do you deport a native born citizen, at least 3 of the 4 London bombers were native born.

Life is no joke but funny things happen

jon

jh45gun · « **Reply #5 on:** July 21, 2005, 09:50:24 PM »

Quote from: fe352v8

If you are going to be morally superior, you might as well be technologically equal

Just Google Anarchy Today, and you can make the same toys used on the London underground.

Now you are longer stuck just ranting, you can give them a dose of their own medicine.

Of course, if you do, your moral superiority goes down the toilet, but hey, sounds like you already flushed the First Amendment anyhow.

By the way how do you deport a native born citizen, at least 3 of the 4 London bombers were native born.

Life is no joke but funny things happen

jon

Speaking of Morally Superior it seems like your liberal soapbox is stuck in overdrive. :roll:

ironglow · « **Reply #6 on:** July 22, 2005, 01:17:05 AM »

FE..
You speak of "moral superiority"...there is no moral equivalency between American citizens and these Godless terrorists.
We did not attack them after the first World Trade Center blast, the Khobar towers blast or after the USS Cole murders (thanks, Willy!...guess he was busy in the "oral office") ..but finally, after 9/11, we did hit back (thanks "W")..
There is no reason we should sit around an be a punching bag for for a bunch of terrorists...whether they be Islamoterrorists or as in the British case of years ago, Irish political terrrorists...
Terrorists are a dirty, disgusting, cowardly bunch. As soon as they begin to commit acts of terror, they have removed themselves from normal, civilized consideration.
Should we give a rattlesnake in our bed or a black widow in our boot special consideration?
At least the REAL animals have an excuse...they are born that way..those human animals train themselves and their children to be consummate haters!!!
As with the rattlesnake, we don't have to hate back..but we do have to defend ourselves. If we suddenly find ourselves to be in the midst of a nest of striking rattlesnakes...it's either them or us..

" Extremism in defense of liberty...is no vice !" Barry Goldwater

I have to agree with Barry....they came to us with their hate and murder, we should give the murder back to them...in spades !

Were I king...I would give our special ops troops hollow point bullets.
Those hollow points would be filled with pig blood and sealed shut with a mixture of casien glue and excrement..
I would publicize this feature...then see how they run !

I would do the same with police likely to face stupid-cide bombers...

The pig blood for their superstitions and the excrement to bring them to need medical care even if only slightly wounded..

They have removed themselves from the rules requiring human kindness..

powderman · « **Reply #7 on:** July 22, 2005, 03:31:48 AM »

fe. No, you don't deport a native citizen, you shoot them. Open your eyes, islam is not about peace, it is hatred and murder, an ever growing CANCER on the world. POWDERMAN.

magooch · « **Reply #8 on:** July 22, 2005, 04:19:47 AM »

Extremism in the offense against extremism is just what the doctor ordered. Outlaw Islam and open season on the scum.

fe352v8 · « **Reply #9 on:** July 22, 2005, 06:06:36 AM »

Anybody ever serve in the US military, seems some of the views expressed are in direct opposition to the oath that was taken:

I, _____, do solemnly swear (or affirm) that I will support and defend the Constitution of the United States against all enemies, foreign and domestic; that I will bear true faith and allegiance to the same; and that I will obey the orders of the President of the United States and the orders of the officers appointed over me, according to regulations and the Uniform Code of Military Justice. So help me God." (Title 10, US Code; Act of 5 May 1960 replacing the wording first adopted in 1789, with amendment effective 5 October 1962).

"I, _____ (SSAN), having been appointed an officer in the Army of the United States, as indicated above in the grade of _____ do solemnly swear (or affirm) that I will support and defend the Constitution of the United States against all enemies, foreign or domestic, that I will bear true faith and allegiance to the same; that I take this obligation freely, without any mental reservations or purpose of evasion; and that I will well and faithfully discharge the duties of the office upon which I am about to enter; So help me God." (DA Form 71, 1 August 1959, for officers.)

Notice that the vow is to uphold and defend the constitution. Hope there is room on the soap-box for all the Â“liberalsÂ” who have taken one of these oaths.

Life is no joke but funny things happen

jon

ironglow · « **Reply #10 on:** July 22, 2005, 08:35:32 AM »

Yes Fe; I have served in the military, as I am sure many here have... when we wipe out terrorists that are trying to destroy our freedom we are defending the constitution.
Surely by attacking terrorists that first attacked us we are doing more to defend the Constitution than Slick Willie was doing invading Bosnia..

Where was the liberal's favorite president's concern about defending our Constitution when he intervened in Bosnia/Herzgovina ?
....probably busy in the oral office...

fe352v8 · « **Reply #11 on:** July 22, 2005, 09:40:38 AM »

So when did we rewrite the First and Fourth Amendments to be only applicable to only non-Muslims?

I have no idea what "Willie" has to do with this. By the way I voted for GHB, twice and then Dole, and then GWB once.

Unfortunately, as is often the case, in family business, the second generation lacks the skill of the first generation, and is not up to the task at hand, as GWB is demonstrating.

life is no joke but funny things happen

jon

jh45gun · « **Reply #12 on:** July 22, 2005, 10:06:40 AM »

Quote from: fe352v8

So when did we rewrite the First and Fourth Amendments to be only applicable to only non-Muslims?

I have no idea what "Willie" has to do with this. By the way I voted for GHB, twice and then Dole, and then GWB once.

Unfortunately, as is often the case, in family business, the second generation lacks the skill of the first generation, and is not up to the task at hand, as GWB is demonstrating.

life is no joke but funny things happen

jon

I find it very hard to believe that you as a self proclaimed liberal would vote for Conservative Presidents. I think your full of crap and just post here to get the goats of most gun owners here, who like me are Conservative.

fe352v8 · « **Reply #13 on:** July 22, 2005, 10:53:30 AM »

Quite simple, when voting for a commander in chief, I feel more comfortable with a person who has had active duty military experience.

GHB understood what war was; served as director of the CIA and two terms a VP much better qualified then Dukakis

Dole wounded veteran, senate minority leader, and consistent stance on issues, versus a governor from Arkansas.

GWB vs. Gore, hey the guy thought he invented the Internet.

Kerry, well after seeing the GWB in the flight suit, and Â“bring it onÂ”, he could not screw it up any worse, and he knew what a war looked like.

Now if you had said I was a mass of detritus, I might have taken that as a personal attack or insult, however your choice of the four letter single syllable word, crap, is indicative of an ignorant and immature out burst, and serves more to demean the speaker, than the recipient.

Life is no joke but funny things happen

jon

jh45gun · « **Reply #14 on:** July 22, 2005, 11:11:39 AM »

No Jon as a rule I just do not like liberals as they are against every thing I mostly am for. You talk about Bush in his flight suit how about Kerry who had tons of home video shot in Nam. Hey a Navy river boat commander who goes out in the jungle dressed like GI Joe complete with m16 and bandoleers on his chest yea right tell me that was not scripted for his future in politics. I bet who ever took the pictures figured it was a lark. Most every liberal I have met do not vote conservative if you do your really are a different sort of bird.

Graybeard · « **Reply #15 on:** July 22, 2005, 12:01:34 PM »

Let's stick to the subject at hand guys and not get into name calling or personal attacks. Cool it back down a notch or two.

fe352v8 · « **Reply #16 on:** July 22, 2005, 12:59:03 PM »

Its is more a question of perspective and what serves the nation, as a whole best.

I disdain terrorism, and have no qualms with destroying them, but I equally disdain destroying the Bill of Rights in the process.

We had lots of FNGs who did Rambo poses for the folks back home. It is quite a different thing for a green twenty something jg lieutenant to look like an idiot then, when the President of the United States dresses up like Â“Top GunÂ” or dares our enemies to kill more of our soldiers. When a fifty something Â“manÂ” does this it leaves me with many questions about his judgment, not to mention character.

I think it sad that, we as the electorate now seem to more often base our decisions on how a candidate is labeled or packaged then we do upon any substantial inquiry of their ideas.

Watch what happens with Judge Roberts, advocacy groups, left and right are screaming, some in horror, some in glee, yet if you read any of his briefs, or his limited number of opinions, there is no doubt this guy is better qualified then several now sitting on the court. There is also no doubt that he is a pragmatist and his reasoning is sound.

I know as Assistant Solicitor General he wrote a brief urging the overturning of Roe V. Wade, and while I support legalized abortion, I also, find that the courts basis for the decision is flawed for the reasons stated in that brief. The issue should have been decided politically not judicially. Which is why I find it so odd that if Â“conservativesÂ” are a majority, why no introduction of a Constitutional remedy.

I am sorry, to digress, but in these days of polarization it is hard to actually characterize oneself. If GWB is a conservative I am a liberal, and if Ted Kennedy is a liberal than I am conservative, neither group has particular appeal to me as I see their respective policies designed more to maintain their position than to better the lives of the public they serve.

So I guess I am not a liberal, and I am sure not a conservative, I guess I am Just an idealist, who believes that someday we can have a government of all the people, by all the people, for all the people, my apologyÂ’s to Lincoln.

Life is no joke but funny things happen

jon

powderman · « **Reply #17 on:** July 22, 2005, 03:06:42 PM »

fe.Almost sounds like you are defending the Godless ones right to murder innocents, that has nothing to do with any ammendment I'm aware of. POWDERMAN. :? :? :? :? :? :?

jh45gun · « **Reply #18 on:** July 22, 2005, 03:08:49 PM »

Ok lets say your a moderate I can live with that I think most folks can as it is the middle of the road so to speak you are not all the way to the left nor are you to the right. I can live with Moderate Democrats and or Republicans. I cannot though stand those that I call liberals that are out in left field they stand for every thing that I cannot abide. Jim

jh45gun · « **Reply #19 on:** July 22, 2005, 03:12:20 PM »

Thing is Kerry used them tapes in his campaign so how can you say he is better than Bush/?

?? I know folks do some strange photo ops when they are in the public eye but hey Bush was a Pilot and HE IS COMMANDER IN CHIEF so if he wants to wear a flight jacket I guess he has the right.

jh45gun · « **Reply #20 on:** July 22, 2005, 03:14:53 PM »

Quote from: Graybeard

Let's stick to the subject at hand guys and not get into name calling or personal attacks. Cool it back down a notch or two.

Ok Sorry Bill I guess I did not consider saying some one was full of it or a odd bird that that was really a personal attak but I suppose it could be construed as such. Jim

Graybeard · « **Reply #21 on:** July 22, 2005, 05:06:58 PM »

Wasn't directed to just one person Jim. The whole thread was moving toward personal attacks/name calling of each other rather than the discussion of the terrorist. Seems discussions of politics and religion have a hard time not going down hill.

fe352v8 · « **Reply #22 on:** July 22, 2005, 05:17:00 PM »

I think we are expressing the frustrations we all feel, when faced with an attack upon innocent civilians by a group that is not acting at the behest or is part of an identifiable monolithic entity such as a country. They are nameless and faceless, the only traits they have had in common is they are between 14 and 60 years old and claim to be Muslims, and Islam is about as monolithic as Christianity, three main branches and many sub sects.

Some seem to have no qualm about killing all the Muslims, but to me it would be like killing all the Christian anti-abortionists because Eric Rudolf claimed he is a Christian, and bombed clinics.

Not defending any ones right to murder innocents, but before we begin executing the Â“Godless onesÂ”, it might be nice to allow for some form of due process, aside from a personal assessment of whose faith is God based and whose is not.

Presently there is a man, Jose Padilla, being held as an enemy combatant. He is a US citizen and was arrested in the US. He has been held in custody for about 3 years now. He has not been, found guilty of a crime, or charged with one, nor has even been slated for trial; he has only been accused of possible being involved in a plot to detonate a Â“dirty bombÂ” in the US

He very well might be guilty of everything he is accused of, who knows, I guess thatÂ’s why we have trials. He is not a sympathetic figure, in my mind, but if a US citizen can be denied his rights and imprisoned without being convicted of any crime, or trial or due process because one person, the President, has declared him an enemy combatant, without any foreseeable recourse, then what prevents a future President from determining that YOU are an enemy combatant.

Ignoring the very document, that is the foundation of this country, only seems to say we no longer have the courage of our convictions.

I find it quite vexing trying to find the balance between stopping a terrorist while maintaining, the rights and freedoms Â“guaranteedÂ” in the Bill of Rights.

Here is an odd one, the Second Amendment, I think it is an absolute, that makes me conservative, I also think the First Amendment is an absolute that makes me a liberal, and in the case of Padilla I think the Fourth Amendment is an absolute, so according to some I would be supporting terrorism.

Either the Bill of Rights is a statement of constitutionally protected rights all the time, or it is just another piece of paper with meaningless words on it.

Life is no joke but funny things happen

jon

jh45gun · « **Reply #23 on:** July 22, 2005, 08:14:31 PM »

Nothing wrong with the First Amendment fe just the liberals that have slanted it and twisted it so it is not a fair representation of the people.

Leverdude · « **Reply #24 on:** July 23, 2005, 05:23:05 AM »

While I dont agree with everything Fe has to say I think I see alot of valid concerns if I understand him right.
It would be real easy to just blame every Moslem in the world & hold them accountable but we'll never get them all & actions like that will only make it easier for the remaining ones to justify their haterd. In other words such action will likely lead to more terrorism than before. I dont think they all are murdering Godless scumbags either. Like Christians, there are alot of people who are born into an Islamic family that dont follow their folks faith & are as mortified of this stuff as we are. You dont hear from them just like you dont hear from the children of Christians who dont apose abortion. Doesn't mean theyre pro life, just means they keep their mouths shut on a contriversial issue.
They may be Godless in the sense they have no faith but thats not a crime.

Also we need to be diligent in watching our own Gov't in times like these. IMO with homeland security & all its erosion of our rights to privacy the terrorists scored another big victory, maybe not in lives but in the destruction of America. We need to be very watchfull as theres many in the Gov that will use our fears of these dirtbags against us to destroy our freedoms in the name of security. The guy Fe mentioned is no different than anyone who is a citizen of the US. He might be a terrorist & he might not be. As an American he should have his day in court & our Gov't should want it too. The fact that he's just sitting there is telling to me because if they knew what they say they know you can bet your sweet patootie he'd be in court & we'de be reading about it & seeing it on the news.
Nope, theyre holding him because they think he mighta done something but theyre not sure. Kinda scary IMO & not something I'm proud of.

My wife buys jewelery online from all over the place. She's been getting some stuff lately from Isreal. Now maybe I'm paranoid but it makes me nervous to have packages from that part of the world sent to my home. Not because I fear a bomb but because I fear my Gov't may misconstrue these packages as somehow being terrorism related. Should an American feel this way conducting legal commerce from their home?

IMO we need to stay focused on everything thats happening around us right now & not get tunnelvision. The biggest threats to our way of life will come from within, from those we trust with our security, in the name of security & peace our freedoms are going bye bye. JMHO of course.

jh45gun · « **Reply #25 on:** July 23, 2005, 08:51:32 AM »

I don't think I have ever said they were all bad here. I do know that not all follow the muslum faith some have joined Christianity. What I will say and stick to it is that I do not trust any of them as who knows if they are part of a cell waiting to act or not? None of us can really tell until they would act. Fortunately none are in my circle of friends nor would I befriend one for the above reason. Prdjudice maybe but I feel for good reason.

Leverdude · « **Reply #26 on:** July 23, 2005, 01:37:08 PM »

Jim,

Thats about the way I feel. I'm sure theyre are good people out there that happen to be of islamic background but I find myself distrusting of them all.
I have no problem with racial profiling regarding my own saftey. I dont see the wrongness of our Gov't using racial profiling in its attempt at national security either but the Gov't should prove its case according to the constitution when dealing with a citizen.

Like I said, if we allow them to drag us down by eliminating what we stand for & turning us into a country that you need to prove your innocence instead of them proving your guilt then the terrorists have won more than we imagined with their 9/11 stunt. We need to stand strong & our values are more important than ever before.

jh45gun · « **Reply #27 on:** July 24, 2005, 11:03:21 AM »

Agreed !!

Quote from: Leverdude

Jim,

Thats about the way I feel. I'm sure theyre are good people out there that happen to be of islamic background but I find myself distrusting of them all.
I have no problem with racial profiling regarding my own saftey. I dont see the wrongness of our Gov't using racial profiling in its attempt at national security either but the Gov't should prove its case according to the constitution when dealing with a citizen.

Like I said, if we allow them to drag us down by eliminating what we stand for & turning us into a country that you need to prove your innocence instead of them proving your guilt then the terrorists have won more than we imagined with their 9/11 stunt. We need to stand strong & our values are more important than ever before.