Sold my springer....

[ABaker]

I was thinking of getting a PCP but they $$ wasn't right. I did a whole bunch of reading and decided to go with the Airsource 2250XL made by Crossman. It is an awesome deal, only $115 and it comes with a scope, mounts, and one Airsource bottle. Airsource bottles can be bought at most Wal-Marts in the paintball section. 2 for $9.95. I have shot the gun over 200 times and the first bottel is still going strong. If you don't want to use Airsouce, you can get a standard Paintball air tank and an adapter from cooper-t. If the paintball tank is long enough you can get rid of the stock and put on pistol grips, using the bottel for a shoulder support.

My 2250 likes almost any .22 pellet. I don't have a chrono but they all seem to have plenty of knockdown power. As for accuracy it's great. 3/8 inch groups at 25yards. It's also pretty quiet so there is a good chance that whatever you are shooting at won't run away at first. I shot 3 times at the same ground squirrel.

Overall my favorite gun. Makes me enjoy shooting again.

Here is a link to see the AS2250XL....  

http://www.crosman.com/site/listing/1086

[dave]

uh oh, now you got the bug. You'll need to go here to get cured:
http://www.network54.com/Forum/275684

[Lawdog]

With a Max stated factory velocity of 550 fps. a .22 is going to fall somewhat short on power for hunting small game use.  That 550 fps was achieved with the very lightest weight pellet Crosman could find.  Most likely not available to the shooting public.  With 16 to 18 gr.(the more popular weights for hunting pellets) the velocity is more likely going to be around 425 - 460 fps.  Crosman accuracy is surprising considering the price.   :eek:   My Mother bought a Crosman 664 which I re-scoped for her with a Simmons 3-9x 32mm I had sitting around.  At 25 yards groups of 1/2" of less are common place.  She uses it to keep pest birds, moles and gophers out of her flower/garden areas.  One suggestion if I may.  I have my Mother now shooting JSB Predator pellets in her Crosman.  They kill birds/moles/gophers better than my old faithful wad cutter pellets out of her lower velocity rifle.  At higher velocities the accuracy isn’t so good but at lower velocities they are accurate and devastating.  Lawdog
 

[dave]

Thats not true at all. The 2250 should be in the mid 500 fps range with standard pellets such as the 14.3 GR Crosman Premier. This power level is just fine for hunting squirrels etc up to 25 yards or so. 460 fps is what you'd expect from a 2240 pistol or a Canadian-market gun. Its real easy to get a lot more power, and theres many other improvements out there for the 2250.

[RDS]

ABaker, Thanks for the post. This 2250 is looks like exactly what I have been looking for to get my wife. Could you tell me what the trigger pull is like?
Thanks, RDS

[Lawdog]

Thats not true at all. The 2250 should be in the mid 500 fps range with standard pellets such as the 14.3 GR Crosman Premier. This power level is just fine for hunting squirrels etc up to 25 yards or so. 460 fps is what you'd expect from a 2240 pistol or a Canadian-market gun. Its real easy to get a lot more power, and theres many other improvements out there for the 2250.

I see we're going to disagree again.  It is true.  Crosman themselves list the velocity date as 550 fps. but under a chronograph you can only come near that(492 fps. average on the one owned by a gunsmith friend) using pellets in the 10 - 12 gr. range.  Many don't consider any rifle shooting under 700 fps. to qualify as a "hunting" rifle.  Personally I figure it takes at least 800 fps. in a .22 caliber to qualify as a "hunting" velocity.  Lawdog
 

[dave]

That gun must have had problems. Every 2250 I've ever seen shoots in the low to mid 500s with mid weight pellets if its not leaking or otherwise impaired. That gun may also have had the Canadian power-limiting valve in it. Those guns are limited to about 490 fps by Canadian law. The gun may have been originally delivered to a dealer in Canada and resold to a customer in the US, a common occurrence.
 550 fps in .22 is plenty for squirrels etc. There are many hundreds of Benjamin and Sheridan owners who regularly take small game with 5 or 6 pumps. For those guns thats in the mid 500 fps range. It doesn't take that much power to kill a squirrel or rabbit, you just need to hit it right. I've taken rabbits at 25+ yards with a 40 year old Diana 22 in .177, shooting 7.9gr wadcutters at 460 fps. One good head shot and lights out. Woodchucks at 20 yards with a Crosman 2100 (625 fps .177) are not a problem either if you can hit where you're supposed to. I can't even count how many squirrels I've whacked with the 60 year old Crosman 102 pumper either, and that shoots midweight .22s in the low to mid 600s. This power thing as I see it stems from the tendency of weekend shooters to try replace skill with technology and power for accuracy. Next thing you know, unless your gun is the latest $700 whizbang that shoots at 900 fps its no good for hunting. The 800 fps you quoted is fine, but you really don't need anywhere near that kind of power to hunt effectively if you know how to use the gun properly.

[Lawdog]

And the Benjamin and Sheridan pumps normally have a velocity of 700+ fps. from the factory(I have owned a few and chronographed many more).  Almost every manufacture of air guns pad their velocity data by using the very lightest weight pellet they can get their hands on, and that includes Crosman.  I have chronographed many a Crosman product and never have I found ONE that came close to the factory stated velocity.  And that was shooting the lightest weight pellet I could get my hands on.  Say what you want but I have seen way too many Ground/Tree Squirrels crawl off only to die a lingering death later after being chest shot with under powered air rifles.  Lawdog