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« on: November 27, 2003, 07:09:06 AM »
most any canadian who knows anything about guns is that are homegrown .22 cooey's have no serial numbers and confound the hell out of the gun control folks. so they issue us stickers with number on them instead. if i heard right this has to be placed in visible place and not under the butt plate. what they didn't releze(i can't spell) is that if you rub your thumb lightly across them a few times tah black and silver sticker becomes white and un readable. i called them asked if knew this would happen and was told they'd send me another sticker and that i should go get it stmped in by a gunsmith. why don't you send me 2 so when the new one wears off i don't have to call again. i don't have the money to go to a gunsmith right now so i have to stick to to the government system
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« Reply #1 on: November 27, 2003, 02:36:26 PM »
Ross rifles, for the most part tell the same story. And I AM NOT defacing my guns (the ones they know about)  :twisted: with their useless numbers. They can shove that idea.
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« Reply #2 on: November 27, 2003, 03:50:02 PM »
I wouldn't giive those clowns one break.  Demand they keep sending the serial numbers.  It should be at their expense, not yours.  That way, they have to continue to justify the absurd cost over runs.  Makes them look really good!

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« Reply #3 on: November 29, 2003, 08:13:13 AM »
do you mean to tell me that the ross rifle has no serial number? i thought that the army would require serial numbers to keep track of which rifle was issued to which soldier. it's already defaced in a way, because the guy i bought it of of had painted the barrel black and the stock grey. the barrel actually looks pretty good in flat black but he used model paint and it is coming off. the stock has bits of newspaper stuck in the paint and intend to refinish it when i go back to school in the woods shop. if the paint had been properly applied it would have looked really good. but it shoots staight and that's what matters.
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« Reply #4 on: February 22, 2004, 03:43:08 AM »
Not all Cooey rifles came without serial #'s. When Cooey started making the first model called the " Canuck" in 1919 they all had serial #'s. In 1922  the government repealed the famous permit law and you could now buy and own a gun without a permit. It was at this time they also changed the serial # requirement. Any Cooey made after May 26,1922 required no serial number.

As for the stickers they deface my collection of Cooey firearms and will not be stuck on the gun. I'm waiting for a responsible government to repeal the law as they did in 1922. ----Cowboy

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« Reply #5 on: February 26, 2004, 12:41:11 PM »
Just bought a Ruger .243 from a fellow in Rainy River...waiting for this gov't to call so they can get their money to register. ..fthen he can send it..  It has been a week now....
Will call the dude in Rainy River tonight to send the rifle and f*** the gov' and this stupid registry.  Yes the stickers keep rubbing off...pain in the ass.
This is fruitless exercise in stupidy.  If they want them engraved they can pay for it!!...not me.!!!





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« Reply #6 on: February 26, 2004, 02:45:41 PM »
Actually kevin, the Ross had a serial numer, but, it was on the stock!
It's still visible on very few rifles. Some had a number stamped on them during the notorious chamber reaming, and that number has been used for registration purposes by some, although it's not in fact a serial number.
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« Reply #7 on: June 13, 2004, 06:04:09 PM »
with a little luck we will can this program in about 2 weeks- the election will be over and hopefully a lot of Liberals will be looking for work.But only if we vote!Look atit this way, you get paid to vote this time- the money you will save on not having to register your guns  will be what you are paid  to vote.

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« Reply #8 on: June 14, 2004, 12:49:27 AM »
I'll go along with that.
Time for a change!
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« Reply #9 on: June 14, 2004, 07:41:14 AM »
i had another kick in the teeth!! my wallet was lost or stolen and i was told to replace the licence it would cost $25 and take 4-6 weeks. if it where winter it wouldn't be so bad but when it's perfect weather for shooting i can't take that kind of punishment! i lost the certificate for a M44 but thats anoyther $25 so i'll wait and see what happens after the election. if it looks like the registry will be scrapped i won't bother replacing it, and if the liberals win i'm moving to texas!!
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« Reply #10 on: February 26, 2005, 07:31:34 PM »
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i had another kick in the teeth!! my wallet was lost or stolen and i was told to replace the licence it would cost $25 and take 4-6 weeks. if it where winter it wouldn't be so bad but when it's perfect weather for shooting i can't take that kind of punishment! i lost the certificate for a M44 but thats anoyther $25 so i'll wait and see what happens after the election. if it looks like the registry will be scrapped i won't bother replacing it, and if the liberals win i'm moving to texas!!


Well 303 did you move to Texas? :shock:
We will be saddled with the registration for some time yet. :(
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« Reply #11 on: February 27, 2005, 03:02:43 AM »
nah, i'm to attached to home. even if it'sdlaws are severly flawed, Canada is still my home and native land. if the laws start to get worse, like banning semi autos, then i'll hop the border, but probably only as far as North Dakota or Montana.
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« Reply #12 on: March 28, 2005, 06:10:08 PM »
i forgot this one. in october i went to buy a century arms M91/30 at SIR. my licence had been sent to the CFO so icouldn't compleete the transfer. i told the mforget about it. i bought my AG42 of the net instead. a few weeks later i get an envelope from the CFC thinking it has soemthing to do with a my Ljungman. nope. registration certificate for the rifle i never bought and couldn't complete the transfer on. SIR had no idea it happened either.  wonder what would have happened had someone else tried to buy it?
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« Reply #13 on: August 05, 2005, 04:42:40 PM »
I gave up on the Gun Registry.  The people working there must all be the children of Liberal politicians.  They certainly don't know anything about firearms.  I registered 13 rifles at once on the internet because it was free for a while.  I know what information I gave them because I printed out a copy for myself.  Of the 13 firearms, 6 had errors  when the registry got back to me.  A week later I started getting letters from them requesting information on my "restricted firearms."  I told them I had only bolt action rifles and nothing was in any way restricted.  Did they believe me?  No, they kept sending the letters anyway.  Finally I just ignored them as being brain dead.  I mean, all agencies will have one or two incompetents working for them.  You grow to expect this when dealing with the government, but these people are pathetic.  Best wishes.

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« Reply #14 on: August 05, 2005, 09:14:38 PM »
Geeze!  And I thought The People's Republic of California sucked!!
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« Reply #15 on: August 13, 2005, 06:02:12 AM »
Here's a really good read!

PUBLICATION: The Toronto Sun
DATE: 2005.08.10
EDITION: Final
SECTION: Editorial/Opinion
PAGE: 19
BYLINE: PETER WORTHINGTON, TORONTO SUN
COLUMN: Write Stuff
WORD COUNT: 477

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FIGHT GUN VIOLENCE: SCRAP THE REGISTRY
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HOW MANY times have we gone over this -- gun violence and gun
registration and how the two have little relevance to each other? The
media, politicians, police and public all agree that something must be
done to halt the increasing tendency towards gun violence in Toronto --
especially handgun violence, which has had strict regulations and
controls since 1934. It's a familiar refrain. Yet little is achieved.

There's no mystical secret on how to curb the use of guns, but our
society simply isn't willing to do what works. Clearly, what doesn't
work is gun registration. That reality is painfully obvious, yet those
who bray the loudest against all firearms are often the ones most
aggressively opposed to what may reduce firearm violence.

Take Toronto, where we all share varying degrees of outrage and unease
over 22 shootings in barely two weeks. The Sun editorializes on the
subject, as does the National Post and other papers -- all sensibly, but
all missing key points. In Toronto, most of the victims of shootings are
black; most of the shooters are black. Black community and church
leaders are urging people to come forward and help the police --
something many have understandably been reluctant to do, fearing
reprisals.

Yet gun violence is more than a "black problem" -- as every black
citizen knows. Toronto's gun-gang problem is largely imported from
crime-plagued Jamaica, where many of the shooters are from. Until
recently, this has been unmentionable in Toronto. Racial profiling, and
all that.

Police know it, the posturing Mayor David Miller knows it, as does
dithering Dalton McGuinty. But will any of them acknowledge it? Not
bloody likely! So law-abiding Toronto black citizens (including the
majority of Jamaicans) continue to be victimized by other blacks, many
if not most of whom are linked to Jamaica. Some who've been deported
later re-emerge in Canada.

The most favoured deterrent is mandatory prison sentences for using a
gun in a crime. How is that a deterrent when it isn't implemented? Too
often, the existing "mandatory" sentence for using a gun in a crime gets
plea-bargained away. For shame.
Toronto's political leaders wonder at how New York changed under Rudy
Giuliani from being America's most lethal and crime-ridden city into the
safest city for its size. But our leaders dare not try Giuliani's
formula here.

BEGGARS REVERED

Giuliani did it by cracking down on all lawbreaking -- from littering,
vagrancy and innumerable petty offences to murder. The payoff from
fingerprinting and identifying minor criminals was that in major crimes,
many fingerprints matched and the police had leads. Meanwhile, in
Toronto, beggars, squeegee people et al. are not only tolerated but
practically revered. Not a great way to purge crime and criminals.

When gun violence becomes endemic, there is also the solution invoked by
Florida, Texas and 40-plus other states -- allowing honest citizens to
carry concealed weapons. To the surprise of everyone, gun crimes dropped
precipitously in those states. Lowlifes considering shooting up a
McDonald's for kicks were deterred by the prospect that a Big Mac
customer with a concealed gun might very well shoot them. That would
never wash in Canada, least of all in Toronto, but it might deter gun
crimes here as it has in the U.S. Some think more police would deter gun
violence. Unlikely.

More practical would be ending long-gun registration, and using the
billion dollars saved to change laws so that violent criminals are
easily jailed and/or deported; or, put bluntly, themselves shot by
police. The choice is ours.
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