I'm also thinking about the CVA Bobcat. Since this'll be my grandsons first ML I'd like it to be a bit more "Tradational" if ya' know what I mean. Plus, it'd be a bit cheaper just in case he doesn't like it all that much. I, personally, wouldn't mind pickin' up an Optima for a second ML. I really love my A&H flint Mt.Rifle and wouldn't trade it for any other ML, especially an inline but I'd still like an inline to "play" with. Talk to ya'll later.