Author Topic: 357 max out today (Read 1055 times)

hellacatcher · « **on:** August 06, 2005, 03:01:43 PM »

Took the max out with JPH45's recommended load of 26grs of AA1680 under remington 180gr SJHP's with small rifle primers, at 100yrds and a cheap 3-9x40 scope. I did a 2 1/8 in group, not to bad for me, this is to be a hunting load. Thinks JPH45 they work. I also tried some 200 gr barns with the same load but not with as good results. On a sad note I took my 30-30, witch I have done little with had put on a Simmons scope I had laying around. The scope was blown I mean can't see a thing through it. Now I need a new scope. It was still fun.

De41mag · « **Reply #1 on:** August 06, 2005, 04:28:09 PM »

Paul;

Sorry to hear about the scope. But getting a new scope is like getting a new rifle, so many choices, but a lot of fun.
Still, a 2 and 1/8 inch group is not bad for 100yds. in a handgun cartridge.
And I'm willing to bet it will get better. Just a tad more tweaking. :wink:

On another note; I loaded some Hornady A-Maxes in 52gr. last night. Gonna give them a try tomorrow, if weather permitting. In the 22-250 UVF.

Dennis

quickdtoo · « **Reply #2 on:** August 06, 2005, 04:49:53 PM »

Paul, check out yer local Walmart, they have the Nikon Buckmasters 3-9x40 on closeout for $125, it usually sells for $185-$200.

Tim

hellacatcher · « **Reply #3 on:** August 06, 2005, 05:00:50 PM »

Dennis I had real good luck with 52 a-maxes have to find my recipe and get it to you.
Tim already having fun looking around for a scope manly looking at sightrons.

De41mag · « **Reply #4 on:** August 06, 2005, 05:01:49 PM »

Paul;

We may have to check out Whittakers again, he had some very good prices on Sightron scopes.
Just a thought.

Dennis

De41mag · « **Reply #5 on:** August 06, 2005, 05:08:23 PM »

Paul;

Dang, If you ain't readin my mind about them Sightrons.

Dennis

quickdtoo · « **Reply #6 on:** August 06, 2005, 05:20:22 PM »

Lock Stock & Barrel has Sightrons on closeout, too...bottom of the page..

http://lockstock.com/

This outfit has good prices em too, but I don't know anything about them..

http://www.ultout.com/sightroninc-optics.htm

Tim

hellacatcher · « **Reply #7 on:** August 11, 2005, 11:07:03 AM »

I finley ordered a scope from Lock Stock and Barrel getting a 3.5-10x50. It is probley to good a scope to put on a lowly 30-30 handy but what to heck I worked the over time I can give the gun a treat now and then.
Quickdtoo thinks for the heads up.

Varminter · « **Reply #8 on:** August 11, 2005, 11:13:23 AM »

The simmons on my marlin 336 went out awhile back. I've never seen a scope do what that one did. Every time i shot it the reticle would tilt inside the scope. was really weird.

quickdtoo · « **Reply #9 on:** August 11, 2005, 11:55:43 AM »

Glad to be of help, Paul!!!

Drew, that's a common thing to happen in inexpensive scopes, have read of it happening several times. :eek:

Tim

Varminter · « **Reply #10 on:** August 11, 2005, 12:00:43 PM »

That was the first time i have had it happen and the first time i had heard of it. With every shot it just kept tilting. I've had a couple of cheap tascos and none of them have given up yet. I won't be surprised when they do, though. o well i guess that's what i get for buying a cheap scope. The saying is true you get what you pay for......or something like that...... :roll:

cattleskinner · « **Reply #11 on:** August 11, 2005, 12:32:57 PM »

Drew:

For the longest time, I was the same way about scopes...getting tascos. That is until last muzzleloader deer season where it was real cold (around 0 degrees the whole time, with snow above your knees). I had one of those 1.5-4.5 tasco's(the one with the circle reticle) on my huntsman. Did I say it was cold? Oh yeah, the entire muzzleloader was frosted, and looked like it had the glue part from duct tape all over the barrel from the fibers coming off my gloves, and freezing to the metal. Back to the story...I ended up shooting at a small buck at about 40ish yards at the 1.5 power, and turned the scope to 4.5 to see if I could see him any better. When I looked through the scope, I saw an x where the + used to be. Needless to say, that ended my hunt. I think it was just so cold that it caused something not to work, because once I took it off of the huntsman, and it warmed up, the scope went up in power just like normal. Needless to say, it went in the non-burnables, and the worst part was I didn't find that deer, he went on the neighbor's land who doesn't allow hunting. I wasn't too impressed with the cheapshot sabots on a shoulder shot. Some food for thought.

~~~Amos

Varminter · « **Reply #12 on:** August 11, 2005, 12:44:04 PM »

I try to reframe from buying them anymore. The last "cheap" scope i bought was a BSA red dot. I don't really consider it a cheap scope though. Inexpensive, yes: cheap; no. Those little red dots are durable. The tascos are just spares for when i get a new barrel and need to one to put on it until i get a better one. I need to get a new one for my 270 ultracomp barrel i just got.

Mitch in MI · « **Reply #13 on:** August 11, 2005, 02:34:00 PM »

The reticle screws into the erector tube. If it starts coming unscrewed, you can see it rotate.

cattleskinner · « **Reply #14 on:** August 11, 2005, 03:33:55 PM »

Thanks Mitch, I'll keep that in mind for the future. I got rid of that thing during muzzleloader season though. Now I've just been wondering what to put on it for this year, I'm thinking about a 4x Simmons pro-diamond that I have laying around.

~~~Amos

Mitch in MI · « **Reply #15 on:** August 13, 2005, 03:39:31 AM »

I once put a low end Tasco ($30 4x32) on a magnum air rifle, after 2-3 shots, I was thinking that I didn't level it properly, and by the time I finished the first five shot group, it was obvious that the reticle was loose and turning. I realize that many firearms scopes aren't intended to handle a gun that recoils forward instead of back, but the speed with which it came apart showed me just how poorly constructed it was.

Mitch in MI · « **Reply #16 on:** August 13, 2005, 06:47:36 AM »

Quote from: quickdtoo

check out yer local Walmart, they have the Nikon Buckmasters 3-9x40 on closeout for $125

Tim, I owe you one. Went to my local Wally World this AM, and they had three left, $80 each. WooHoo!

quickdtoo · « **Reply #17 on:** August 13, 2005, 09:16:14 AM »

Dang, I thought the $125 was a great price!!! You bought em all, didn't ya!! :grin:

Tim

hellacatcher · « **Reply #18 on:** August 13, 2005, 04:23:14 PM »

I had checked out the local Wally Worlds and they were out of any scopes on sale so somebody beat me to them

Mitch in MI · « **Reply #19 on:** August 14, 2005, 01:19:10 PM »

Quote from: hellacatcher

I had checked out the local Wally Worlds and they were out of any scopes on sale so somebody beat me to them

There didn't seem to be any at my local store, but there were two Nikons in the locked display case so I made the guy scan them. The $199.99 Buckmasters scanned for $80, the cheaper (but still three digits) Prostaff scanned as marked.
If they don't have a Buckmasters 3-9x40 on display, do you want my display model? No box or papers, but it comes with Nikon caps and a big yellow $199.99 sticker. Not a scratch on it, just sticker adhesive.

Fred M · « **Reply #20 on:** August 14, 2005, 04:26:06 PM »

hellacatcher and Quick.

That 3.5-9x50 is a very good buy. Sightron's best seller is the 3-9x42 SII
I have on of them . It has been on several rifles including my 300 Win Mag.

I understand this is an inventory clearance sale. Sightron has good solid optics and very good tracking.

The 36x Sightron has sneaked into the Benchrest game, that saying something , believe me. They are competing with the best Leupolds and Lightforce.

Good service too. They don't repair your scope but send you a brand new one by return mail.

hellacatcher · « **Reply #21 on:** August 14, 2005, 04:38:43 PM »

I have been told that sightron uses the same lens that leupold does. They seem like good solid scopes I already have one one a 7mm 06 and it seams to do well.

hellacatcher · « **Reply #22 on:** August 14, 2005, 04:41:12 PM »

Mitch I have a sightron on order and have spent my allowance already but thinks for the offer. :grin:

De41mag · « **Reply #23 on:** August 14, 2005, 05:02:11 PM »

Fred;

I really like them. I've had a 2.5X8X42 SII for three years now. It's been on several rifles and had no problem with them. I just bought another a few weeks ago a 3X12X42AO and put it on my 22-250 UVF. And it came with a sunshade.
Those Sightrons, I'll buy more when I need another scope.

Dennis

Fred M · « **Reply #24 on:** August 16, 2005, 05:14:06 PM »

De41mag
Dennis.

One thing to buy an economy gun you know where you stand. But buying a cheap scope is another story. These scopes have a habit of falling apart when you least expect it or want it. They have non repeatable adjustments with no tracking to speak of. A good quality scope will always back you up with reliability and optical performance.

Even an economy rifle deserves a good scope. This is money well spend.

De41mag · « **Reply #25 on:** August 16, 2005, 05:38:08 PM »

Fred;

Good point about the good scope and an economy rifle.
Well said. :wink:

Dennis

Haywire Haywood · « **Reply #26 on:** August 16, 2005, 10:59:15 PM »

Quote from: cattleskinner

he went on the neighbor's land who doesn't allow hunting.

I had that happen to me once too. I didn't bother asking him, I just retrieved my deer. I then paid him a visit and told him what happened. After it was processed, I took him a couple tenderloin steaks. He didn't eat them but his grown son appreciated the gesture. We had a falling out later but it wasn't over that.

Ian

hellacatcher · « **Reply #27 on:** August 17, 2005, 12:55:45 AM »

I don't remmber all of the story but a couple years ago here in Tenn we had a boy killed by a irate land owner when recovering a deer on his land. Have been told if they go on someone else land to contact the game people and let them handle it.