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« Reply #1 on: October 11, 2005, 02:10:41 PM »
I cannot access the article :cry:
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« Reply #2 on: October 11, 2005, 04:40:49 PM »
Looks like they moved it. Here is the same story, from a different site.
http://www.uticaod.com/archive/2005/09/17/news/4457.html
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« Reply #3 on: October 11, 2005, 08:28:06 PM »
This was also brought up on the "Hunting In New York" forum!
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« Reply #4 on: October 11, 2005, 09:25:20 PM »
Troubles possible for Remington plant in Lonoke

Associated Press

Thu, Sep. 08, 2005

LONOKE, Ark. - North Carolina-based Remington Arms Co.'s chief executive has sent a letter to the company's 1,000 Lonoke employees saying the company's long-term survival could be in jeopardy because of pension plan problems.

"Our company is facing one of its biggest financial challenges of the past 25 years," chief executive Thomas Millner wrote in a copy of the letter obtained by the Arkansas Democrat-Gazette newspaper of Little Rock.

Millner said the pension plan is receiving low interest rates and returns on its investments. He said the company is meeting its legal obligations regarding the plan. The Remington Arms pension plan covers all non-union employees hired before June 1996 and all union employees hired before September 1997.

The rifle and shotgun company's pension plans had assets of $109.6 million at the end of 2004, according to its annual report filed with the Securities and Exchange Commission. By the end of that year the company had accumulated benefit obligations of $138.9 million, which benefit plan experts say indicates a shortfall of at least $29.3 million.

Charles Rink, manager of the Lonoke plant, said he has heard the shortfall could be more than $48 million. Millner said in his letter that the plan's multi-million dollar future liability could be beyond the company's ability to fund from its earnings.

Remington Arms had a net loss of $3.2 million in 2003 and $4 million last year after combined earnings of more than $53 million the three previous years. It's debt has grown from $157 million in 2000 to $203 million last year.

"The funding requirements of the pension plan have the long-term potential of affecting our survival," Rink said. "That's why we're looking at trying to be proactive and examining all alternatives to help protect what our employees have."

The Madison, N.C.-based company employs 2,400 people nationwide.

http://www.sanluisobispo.com/mld/sanluisobispo/business/12590561.htm?t emplate=contentModules/printstory.jsp

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« Reply #5 on: October 12, 2005, 04:37:41 AM »
Remington has been in financial trouble since Dupont dumped them. A few years back they were trying to find a buyer but don't think they ever did so they've just kept plugging along. I guess that other than Ruger they are about the only American gun company that hasn't filed for bankruptcy or reorganization to fix their debt. The gun industry as a whole in this country is in deep trouble.


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« Reply #6 on: October 13, 2005, 08:48:32 AM »
Wowsers :shock:

I'd hate to be the sucker under the thumb of another power plant like the Ilion plant is :eek:
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« Reply #7 on: October 13, 2005, 12:52:14 PM »
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The gun industry as a whole in this country is in deep trouble.

Your darn right, and you can thank the greedy, short-sighted, "compensation based on this quarter's peformance", corperate structure that has been running it. Don't worry, after Remington goes bankrupt, a longer-sighted outfit like Beretta (500+ years in the gun buissiness), will buy them out. We Americans like to think we are better than the rest of the world, but we are a work in progress to some of these 2000 + year old eyes. Look at how we now fear China!
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« Reply #8 on: October 17, 2005, 04:56:31 PM »
Heck I see no problem.  Tell some of their lawyers and bean counters to wear old clothes, their job descriptons have just changed.  They seemed to do pretty well with machinists and gunsmiths.  Can't their replacements walk on water?  A pity.  They'll get no sympathy from me.  I've sworn off Big Green for the duration, too many poorly made products in recent years for my money.  Best wishes.

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« Reply #9 on: October 28, 2005, 11:23:00 AM »
Sorry to hear bad news about Remington but I think they know what they are doing. The way I see it their rifles are the best made anywhere. :D