Author Topic: 35 Rem 336 C (Read 1415 times)

John C-S · « **on:** August 21, 2005, 08:40:23 AM »

Ihave a35REM 336C. Ihaven't fired it yet. I did go through a lot of Marlins. I ended up with this one because I like the Marlin Levers and find all of their cartridges in levers quite superb. Why the .35? I guess there are many here to reply to this first post of mine. I would like to hear from you,pro or con, about the choice I ended with.

35Rem · « **Reply #1 on:** August 21, 2005, 08:43:37 AM »

I like mine. You won't be dissapointed. This is a great caliber. ( I have 3 -35 Rems. and counting) Recoil is very manageable and this cartridge kills much better than the paper ballistics say. Good Choice!!

John C-S · « **Reply #2 on:** August 21, 2005, 10:33:25 AM »

I have had them all. All are fabulous. But there is something about this 35 that wins my feeling in a lever and open sighted gun. The balance is very responsive. The cartridge is flatter shooting than either 444 or 45-70. Yet those big bruisers are only good out to 100 yards anyway. So why not a 35 or30-30? Just my thoughts.

Old Griz · « **Reply #3 on:** August 23, 2005, 07:24:12 AM »

:cb2: I agree with you John. A .30-30 or .35 is all 95% of us really need. I can't give up my .45-70, however, because it was the first Marlin I owned, and it's just too darn accurate to get rid of.

I remember reading an article that listed the 10 best selling calibers, and I was surprised (but pleased) to see the .35 Rem. in the top 10. It's almost a forgotten caliber today with most hunters in this world of magnums, short magnums, super short magnums, steroid magnums, and over kill to the 9th power magnums.

I hope Marlin keeps it up. Every now and then people come to their senses.

John C-S · « **Reply #4 on:** August 23, 2005, 01:04:09 PM »

They both go into guns that are responsive and repeating, if necessary. They work in open sights. And in the thick of country where a shot beyond 100 yards is not possible. They are light and so handy that they are easily taken anywhere anyplace without feeling like they are a part of the body. And. As Jeff Cooper said, the 30-30 (or even a similar rifle in another caliber--my assumption seeing either do their work) is better than the M-16 (a .22) for anti-personnel work. I agree. I think the .22 centerfire is a varmint rifle. With the problem of light bullets deflecting off light leaves and vegetation. My opinion. The 336 in .35 Rem with 200 gr bullets. My choice for hunting or antipersonnel.

John C-S · « **Reply #5 on:** August 23, 2005, 01:11:20 PM »

They both go into guns that are responsive and repeating, if necessary. They work in open sights. And in the thick of country where a shot beyond 100 yards is not possible. They are light and so handy that they are easily taken anywhere anyplace without feeling like they are a part of the body. And. As Jeff Cooper said, the 30-30 (or even a similar rifle in another caliber--my assumption seeing either do their work) is better than the M-16 (a .22) for anti-personnel work. I agree. I think the .22 centerfire is a varmint rifle. With the problem of light bullets deflecting off light leaves and vegetation. My opinion. The 336 in .35 Rem with 200 gr bullets. My choice for hunting or antipersonnel.

John C-S · « **Reply #6 on:** August 23, 2005, 01:17:13 PM »

They both go into guns that are responsive and repeating, if necessary. They work in open sights. And in the thick of country where a shot beyond 100 yards is not possible. They are light and so handy that they are easily taken anywhere anyplace without feeling like they are a part of the body. And. As Jeff Cooper said, the 30-30 (or even a similar rifle in another caliber--my assumption seeing either do their work) is better than the M-16 (a .22) for anti-personnel work. I agree. I think the .22 centerfire is a varmint rifle. With the problem of light bullets deflecting off light leaves and vegetation. My opinion. The 336 in .35 Rem with 200 gr bullets. My choice for hunting or antipersonnel.

John C-S · « **Reply #7 on:** August 23, 2005, 01:34:33 PM »

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35Rem · « **Reply #9 on:** August 23, 2005, 02:12:16 PM »

Ahh, don't worry about it, you'll get the hang of it.

you are right, the 35 is a great round. The Marlin is a great platform for it, too.

My only complaint, and it's minor, is the it's only available in a 20" barrel. In my opinion this limits the 35 remington. I would love to see a longer (24") barrel. It makes a difference. Not that it's a lesser caliber, but the extra barrel gives it a little more punch.

John C-S · « **Reply #10 on:** August 25, 2005, 01:11:11 PM »

I cleaned it before firing. I noticed the bore had internal compression marks where the WARNING imprint was compressed. This occurs just forard of the chamber on the right hand side. I decided to ignore this defect and see what accuracy was like. I set up a 25 yard pistol target (they have a good black circle to put at the 6 O'Clock hold) at 40 yards. I shot five times with REM 200 grain SP's. I checked the target. A contained 1" group 2" above the black. I then lowered the rear sight and put in another 3. A contained 1" group in the center. I stopped and decided this was sufficient. I guess the defect forard of the chamber in the bore is not something to worry about. Glad I didn't judge this rifle from what the bore revealed. Anyone else encounter this sort of thing?

oso45-70 · « **Reply #11 on:** August 25, 2005, 01:50:37 PM »

To me the marlin Lever Action brings the little boy out of all of us. From the little 39A to the 95s they all have the marlin feel which to me is great. No other lever action rifle has the Smoooth action like the Marlin. The 35 is the go to rifle for a lot of people, Just rite for Deer in tight brush and plenty good for longer shots, And plenty for Blackies also. I love my Marlins

............Joe..........

Savage .250 · « **Reply #12 on:** August 26, 2005, 04:13:30 AM »

Solid performer...........never lets you down.

" The best part of the hunt is not the harvest but in the experience."

Pinkerton · « **Reply #13 on:** August 29, 2005, 06:30:03 PM »

The 35 Rem is a great round but I'll have to disagree that it's a flatter shooting round than the 444 or 45-70... Less punishing but not flatter shooting.

Let's start with the 45-70 (22" barrel)
Hornady 300gr HP at 2100 FPS. 100yrd zero drops 10.4" at 200yrds

444 (24" barrel)
Hornday 240gr xtp 2400FPS, 100yrd zero drops 8.0" at 200yrds.
444 (15" barrel)
Hornady 240gr xtp 2200FPS, 100yrd zero drops 11.5" at 200yrds.

35 Rem (20" barrel)
Hornday 200gr RN 2000FPS, 100yrd zero drops 11.7" at 200yrds.

The 444 in a handgun shoots as flat as the 35 rem in a rifle. In Rifle length barrels the 45-70 drops over an inch less and the 444 almost 4" less at 200yrds. If you want "flat shooting" in a Marlin get the 444. "flatter shooting than" don't sell the 35 Rem... Less punishing and a great woods perfomer do.

John C-S · « **Reply #14 on:** August 29, 2005, 07:05:38 PM »

There is not that much difference in performance in a lever like the Marlin for either. The rifles balance well and they are absolutely beautiful with their style and black walnut. But if I felt I needed more than a 35 caliber with 2K fps and 200 grains I would just opt for my open sighted 70 Win in 458 and forget about the rest.

Pinkerton · « **Reply #15 on:** September 01, 2005, 03:36:02 PM »

Quote

The cartridge is flatter shooting than either 444 or 45-70. Yet those big bruisers are only good out to 100 yards anyway. So why not a 35 or30-30? Just my thoughts.

I think the 35 Rem choice is great, but I just had to take issue with the "flatter shooting than" and any Marlin lever is a winner in my Heart. (and the Win mod 70, those are my two favorite rifles) But I feel real comfortable with the 444 out to 200 yrds but thats me.

Enjoy your marlin[/quote]

John C-S · « **Reply #16 on:** September 05, 2005, 06:09:58 AM »

Do you think Marlin will bring this back? I'd like to see it again and get one now that I know what .35 cals can do.

Old Griz · « **Reply #17 on:** September 05, 2005, 06:17:35 AM »

:cb2: Don't have to bring it backit ain't gone.

www.marlinfirearms.com/firearms/leverAction_centerfire/336C.htm

John C-S · « **Reply #18 on:** September 05, 2005, 06:44:56 AM »

I meant the 336 in 356 Win cal.

Old Griz · « **Reply #19 on:** September 05, 2005, 09:16:29 AM »

:cb2: Sorry! :oops:

John C-S · « **Reply #20 on:** September 05, 2005, 02:13:49 PM »

I like your chosen quote. I'm an Army chaplain mobilized under Operation Noble Eagle. I do the administrative support to our troops downrange. You have no need to apologize. I think we are on the same path. But we do have to focus upon what makes us tick in the gun (Lever) that won the west. No other country has that privilage. I don't really know why. I love the lever. Especially the Marlins and the Winchesters. But this Marlin .35 Rem with it's beautiful black walnut stock and point-ability captures all my Western heritage. I kind of want a .356 Winchester with the same rifle. Clay Harvey spoke often about them. I'd like to get one. I love the 200 grain .35 cal rifle bullet. I had a Whelen and thought it was sufficient for anything in North America. But it was, of all things, a German Bolt (straight throw by Heim) that lacked the luster of a Lever. It was accurate and the wood was worth the $1800.00 or so I paid for it. But I think the lever is the my absolute preference in a .35. What say you?

Old Griz · « **Reply #21 on:** September 05, 2005, 07:08:26 PM »

:cb2: Nothing is more pure American than a good SA revolver, a lever action rifle, and a Stetson. Oh course, some folks would add a 1911 to the mix, but that's just getting a bit too modern!

One of my favorite movie lines of all time is from "The Wind and the Lion." Sean Connery asks Candace Bergen what kind of rifle President Roosevelt uses, and she holds her head up with pride and says, "A Winchester!"

A lever gun is the weapon of choice for good ol' patriotic Americans!

John C-S · « **Reply #22 on:** September 06, 2005, 04:31:38 PM »

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Pinkerton · « **Reply #23 on:** September 06, 2005, 06:03:22 PM »

I think some have considered having the marlin converted to 356 Win. also the 358jdj which would be somewhat similar and have posted questions about it, I'm not sure of the outcome though. Try using the search option on this site to see what you can find.

good luck.

John C-S · « **Reply #24 on:** September 07, 2005, 01:17:16 PM »

I have to admit I am trying to drum up support for Marlin's reintroduction of the original .356 Win in their outstanding levers. The JDJ is, in my age, a coat tail item I have no interest in. My own opinion. Mind you.