375 Win and Barnes 210 Grain X-Bullet

[Rupe/PA]

Anyone using the Batnes 210 grains X-Bullet in their 375 Win.  How is the accuracy and more importantly how does it perform on deer sized game ?  Thanks.      Rupe/PA

[wheelgun]

I have read that the X bullet will not expand in a contender.It seems like i read something about higher pressures with the x bullet also.
just my .02

[karbo]

The same combination interested me as well.  I'd thought if the bullet wasn't expanding well, I would try drilling out the hollow point to a larger diameter, which should help.   This would be an interesting experiment with any of the Barnes X bullets I would think.

[TCBrian]

I tend to shy away from barnes X bullets because in general they produce lower velocities with higher pressures than comparable weight bullets.

However, I use 180 gr Barnes X in 30-06 rifle with excellent results and accuracy. Copper fouling is a problem though.

Of course the 06 is producing a lot more velocity than than a 375 win would out of a contender, so expansion is not a problem.

I havn't tried them, but heard the triple shocks give better performance with less pressure. They also are supposed to reduce copper fouling which is horrible with my 180 X bullets. I have no such problem with sierras, hornadys, or noslers, so I will be staying away from the barnes bullets from now on.


Good hunting,
Brian

[Rupe/PA]

I contacted Barnes today and asked the question.  They said that the 210 grain TSX (that's what he called it}, was designed to expand at 1800 fps.  If you are pushing the bullet at around 1900 fps, that would make it a short range (50 to 75 yard) bullet.  I was hoping for better expansion at less velocity.

[Redhawk1]

I tend to shy away from barnes X bullets because in general they produce lower velocities with higher pressures than comparable weight bullets.

Good hunting,
Brian

Where did you read this at? I know you get higher pressure, but my velocity is the same.

[TCBrian]

Redhawk1,
My point was that with barnes bullets, you will reach max pressures with a lower velocity than most other bullets, allowing you to push most other brands a little faster and still be within safe pressure limits.

Question to all:
Does anyone know why barnes bullets copper foul so bad? I know they are all copper, but other bullets have copper jackets. Is the barnes copper a softer alloy, because they don't have a soft lead core to compress?

The fact that they compress less is my theory of why they reach max pressure faster, but I am no expert on the subject.

Regardless, in higher velocity cartridges, barnes bullets hold together very well and penetrate like crazy. The accuracy in just fine for hunting, though may not be as good as some other bullets. No doubt they are an excellent bullet and very reliable on game if used at the right velocities.

Brian

[karbo]

I think the increased fouling is because they use a softer alloy.  I've heard the increased pressure is due to the fact that the Barnes bullet is longer than a conventional bullet of the same weight.  The extra length means there's more bearing surface on the bore and therefore more friction.  That's why they came out with the banded bullets (TSX).