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Offline ShootnStr8

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« on: February 13, 2004, 04:14:03 AM »
Gentlemen,

I've very much enjoyed the discussions in this forum.  El Confederado you do a nice job keeping things interesting!

I really don't know that much about the ACW especially compared to the excellent company in this forum.  If you were to recommend just one book on the subject, then what would it be?

Blessings!

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« Reply #1 on: February 13, 2004, 12:57:30 PM »
My personal favorite is James McPherson's Battle Cry of Freedom, first published in the late '80's. A Pulitzer Prize-winning comprehensive but concise single volume, it explores the political, social, and ecomomic circumstances of the era as much as it discusses military action itself. McPherson writes in a very readable style, much like historian Stephen Ambrose.

There's a 2003-published illustrated version that weighs in at a depleted-uranium-wallet-piercing $75. If one can swallow the price, the lavish, well-captioned illustrations greatly enhance the information available in the text of the regular paperback version.
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« Reply #2 on: February 13, 2004, 03:59:29 PM »
There are a host of good ones, and you'll probably eventually wind up with most of them. From a purely military standpoint, one of my favorites is an old copy of The Compact History of the Civil War, by Col. Earnest Dupuy and Col. Trevor Dupuy. I'm sure it's long out of print, but you may find a copy on Ebay or Amazon.

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« Reply #3 on: February 26, 2004, 01:31:41 PM »
In the book "Confederates in the Attic", on page 5 the author states that the number of books on the Civil War has passed 60,000. The author quotes historian Shelby Foote in saying "Southerners are very strange about that war."
I just bought the book "Battle Cry of Freedom", partly because of the recommendation in a post above.

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« Reply #4 on: April 09, 2004, 09:20:20 AM »
The book about the ACW is the historical-fiction trilogy that was started with the middle book, Michael Shaara's Killer Angels. I love the way that they're written and it is closely historical, for being fiction. There are some parts that Shaara, and his son Jeff who finished the other two books of the trilogy, took some major poetic liscense on. He puts characters in places that there are records that they were not there, but other than putting Chamberlain in the middle of the defense of Cemetary Ridge during Pickett's charge, they did a very good job of writing a narrative around history.

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« Reply #5 on: June 05, 2004, 01:35:40 AM »
A good analysis of US foreign policy is "Abraham Lincoln Deals with Foreign affairs", also published under  the title "Diplomat in Carpet Slippers" by Jay Monahan.  This is a classic study originally published in the 1940's and it does a good job of describing the international situation that almost erupted into WWI.  The Civil War is too frequently seen as purely a local, regional conflict, but in reality there were huge international implications.

Another critical analysis is a book entitled, "Freeing Slaves, Enslaving Free Men" by a historian/law professor whose name escapes me. It was a very good analysis of slavery, the war and other aspects of that era from something of a pro-southern point of view.  Do a Google search and you can get the author's name, I think.  I strongly recommend this book.

I personally enjoy reading letters and speeches of historical figures from this era.  They were quite literate, they wrote wonderful prose, and they expressed themselves in the words and manner of their own choosing without the ghost writers, speech writers and handlers who dominate  what passes for the public discourse today.     The speeches and letters of Abraham Lincoln area available in a number of editions, all the way from single volume collections to the full, blown 8 volume Rutgers University edition of the Complete words of Lincoln (Eat your heart out. I got a set for $15.00 on EBAY). I'm slowly working my way tho  rough it, although I have read most of the main speeches and writings of Lincoln over the years.  His prose is magnificent.

I enjoyed "Sherman's Civil War" a collections of the civil war correspondence of Wm. T. Sherman, commencing with letters he wrote at the beginning of secession when he was head of the state military academy in louisana!  Sherman, that great southern nemesis, actually spent a great deal of time in the  pre-war south, had many friends there, and greatly admired and enjoyed many aspects of Southern culture.  Sherman was a gun nut and a hunter.   This book contains 900 pages of Sherman's personal and official correspondence, an amazingly prolific output by one of the war's most active and energetic generals in an era before the invention of the typewriter or computerized word processing.  Sherman was a strategic thinker and a commander of great intellectual depth and considerable ability.  Strongly recommended.  

Sherman's memoirs are also strongly recommended.

I recently finished "The Rise and Fall of the Confederate Government" by Jefferson Davis and it was a wonderful read. Davis makes a well argued, well documented  case for the "compact theory" of the Union, whereby individual states were free to dissolve the union and withdraw from it in much the same way as individual members of a partnership or a joint venture.  I found it very informative, well written and well argued...even if a bit tedious at times. It's in two volumes but is worth the effort if you are willing to make it. It's well organized so that you can skip around if you don't want to plow through both vols. from cover to cover.   I think it is a must read for any serious student of this most tragic and turbulent era of  American History.

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« Reply #6 on: June 05, 2004, 01:44:47 AM »
I just finished a book - THE COMING DARKNESS - by Don Warder. I found it to be an excellent, well researched book on the Civil War.

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« Reply #7 on: June 05, 2004, 01:48:24 AM »
The Complete Idiots guide to the Civil War, is what Im reading.  Author seems to be very impartial and points out both Union and Confederate good points and bad.  Im down to the last 1/4 of the book.  The author starts with the period before the war and goes on to finish with its impact afterwards.
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« Reply #8 on: August 29, 2004, 07:04:56 PM »
actually the most entertaining read i found on the state of the country before during and after the war was the John Jakes " North & South " trilogy. i think Jakes did a huge amount of research in getting even the smallest most insignificant details accurate. i think he got a lot of help from shelby foote so it must be accurate. the ken burns documentry is always good for a few nights of television.
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« Reply #9 on: April 28, 2005, 01:19:31 PM »
I personally enjoyed "The Lincoln Conspiracy" by David Balsiger and Charles E. Sellier, Jr. and "The Causes of the American Civil War" edited by Edwin C. Rozwenc.

The Lincoln Conspiracy has to do with the workings of the people and events in the Lincoln Presidency which led to the undermining of Lincoln's policies regarding the slavery issue.

The second book is and edited compilation of 18 different reasons for the cause of the Civil War.  Possibility of a conspiracy by foreign interests.

I'd recommend both

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« Reply #10 on: August 29, 2005, 06:18:42 AM »
Hello guys,

There are so many books I have read on the Civil War, but some stand out. Among these is "The South Was Right," by James Ronald and Walter Donald Kennedy. It refutes many myths about the war and the south and discredits a man named Frederick Law Olmstead, a famous antebellum man who wrote many things about the south as per his observations there. Also, you might want to check out Robert Louis Dabney, who was an aide to Stonewall Jackson. He has some good firsthand info. Finally, look into the book "I'll Take My Stand." I've never read it, but I have read about it. A good video is "The Great Civil War Debate," by Vision Forum.

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« Reply #11 on: September 04, 2005, 09:37:18 PM »
BibleBlever:

I did a quick Google search on Frederick Law Olmsted, and found this link:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Frederick_Law_Olmsted

Here is a quote from the link:

"Olmsted also had a significant career in journalism. In 1850 he traveled to Europe to visit public gardens, and subsequently published Walks and Talks of an American Farmer in England in 1852. Interested in the slave economy, he was commissioned by the New York Daily Times (now the New York Times) to embark on an extensive research journey through the American South and Texas from 1852 to 1857. Olmsted took the view that the practice of slavery was, besides being morally odious, also expensive and economically inefficient. His dispatches were collected into multiple volumes which remain vivid, first-person social documents of the pre-war South. The last of these, "Journeys and Explorations in the Cotton Kingdom" (1861), published during the first six months of the American Civil War, helped inform and galvanize antislavery sentiment in New England."

How was he later discredited?
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« Reply #12 on: September 21, 2005, 04:39:21 AM »
:D Hi Guys!
             Sorry for my long absence, but I can only get to the library so often. Anyway, ShootnStr8, Frederick Law Olmstead was discredited by the fact that, as a northern observer with a distinctly northern bias, he could not have given a good report on the financial state of the south other than through his northern eyes. For example, he once met a man whom he deemed a very poor fellow, really down and out, but that man had hundreds of hogs and other livestock just on another hill, out of Olmstead's sight. He made the mistake of declaring that man one of the South's statistics before studying that man's financial situation. Also, it is obvious that the south had a different economy from that of the north. One was fully agrarian, while the other was going full-throtle toward industrialization. In that changing economical time, Olmstead was looking at the south as a northerner. What he saw as abject poverty might not have been what southerners thought to be poverty. According to the Kennedy's, an entirely different mindset on economy and prosperity separated the south from the north. Olmstead's views were not the views of the south, but of the north. Try getting a southern historian or contemporary of Olmstead for a different view. Until next time,
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« Reply #13 on: September 21, 2005, 04:56:49 AM »
Shaar is good ,Catton is good but Foote is excellent and his Trilogy is a must read.
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« Reply #14 on: September 21, 2005, 05:45:53 PM »
If everyone would read Shelby Foote , I feel they would better understand both sides  . Having read hundreds of books on the subject , I have read no one who is even close to being as unbiased as he was . He makes you feel just as proud of Northern valor as of Southern valor . When leaders are wrong , Rebel or Union he writes about it . When they are great he also tells their story . Victories and defeats are factualy presented . I have followed the War Between the States since my youth , but Shelby Foote made it more than just history . He will be missed but I am glad he left us with his words .

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« Reply #15 on: October 07, 2005, 12:18:57 PM »
Greeting's gentlemen,
     I'm a little new to this section, but I am very interested in this subject. I am reading "The South was Right" right now. The very first point that the Kennedy brothers make is that "the victor gets to write the history."
   If anyone is interested in Shelby Foote, you can still go to the NPR.org web site and do a search on his name. You will come up with a link to an interview that you can listen to.
   In terms of economics I believe it is in Shelby Foote's book ( I might have read it somewhere else though) that he talks about Representatives of the south who went to England to try and negotiate a price for southern cotton. England at the start of the war was buying a large percentage of it's cotton from the south, but they also brought in a lot from India. At the start of the war England thought they might have trouble getting cotton so they ordered their holdings in India to increase cotton production. During the later part of the war, then the market in England almost ceased to exist.
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« Reply #16 on: October 07, 2005, 03:53:30 PM »
Welcome Rusty ,
   Here is a good article on England and Southern cotton . The South supplied about 2/3 of the world's cotton as a whole but 3/4 of England's needs . If memory serves me correctly 1860 had been a bumper crop for cotton and many of England's warehouses were bulging from that at the start of the war .
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« Reply #17 on: October 09, 2005, 05:46:41 AM »
Thanks Jim, that was an excellent article. I seem to see a renewed interest in the South and all things Southern. I even recently found a magazine I had never seen before. I bought it at my local feed store. They had it on sale right beside "Boar hunter" and "Airboat." This one is called "Y'all" Not much to the tittle but there are some really good articles in it. One article was on Shelby Foote, another on Colleges that are teaching courses on Southern history and the influence of the south.

  I'm going to be 50 on my next birthday and I can remember the day when I came home from a public school in Maryland and told my father that we had learned in school that the ACW was fought over slavery. There was a loud wailing and gnashing of teeth as I was set straight. My father, who was an MD. shortly produced his college textbook from the Univ. Of WV. that set out the causes of the war. Would you believe slavery was not mentioned? It would be a lot easier to right this wrong ( in the teaching) if people like Newt Gingrich would stop trying to put forth this information.

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