what I saw in the hills of the smokies

[Simple Man]

When I was around 15 years old, which would have been 18 years ago, I was on vacation in Gatlinburg TN with my dad. Now dad always liked to drink beer and go on long drives and I always enjoyed going with him to hang out and have long talks.  One night on this vacation we were driving in some very remote parts of the mountains surrounding Gatlinburg and Cherokee. We were miles from any towns and would hardly ever see a house or anything. It was cool rainy October night probably around midnight and we were on top of a mountain on a very narrow winding country road and all of the sudden we came around this corner and there stood a young woman who was standing in the pouring rain in the middle of the road, in the middle of nowhere. She had only her underwear on and that was it, about 30 feet from her was a man who was wearing only jeans.  She was standing in the middle of the road as we drove by and she did not even look at us as she just stared at the man who was at the edge of the woods. It was obvious that had not driven there and that they had been outside for a while because they were drenched and there skin looked white from the cold. I don’t think she even had shoes on but I seem to remember that he did.  Dad slowed way down (almost stopping) and was freaking out over what we were looking at but he did not stop. It was a very strange situation being that we were in the middle of nowhere on top of a mountain with no houses, cars or any other sign of life was and it was midnight on a cold evening and raining pretty hard. Now, I don't know why my dad chose not to stop that night, I know that he always had guns and carried them sometimes. I know that he told me that night that there was something bad wrong with what we had saw and maybe he felt uneasy stopping with his young son in the truck with him. I know my father has always been a very brave man and I don't think I have ever seen anything that has scared him. We didn’t report what we saw that night and I don’t know why but we left the next morning. Dad has asked me a couple of times over the years if I remembered that night and I have said that I do and he would only say he wondered what happened. I have thought about it often over the years and always wondered if that girl was ok and what might have happened if we had stopped.

[choppa]

Bdhaley,

Did they look ghostly? I mean do you think that they were apparitions of some sort or were they actually alive?

If that makes sense?

[Simple Man]

They looked very alive. I have never even thought about it in that way before.

[John]

Domestic problems in the Smokies.

[Simple Man]

It's hard to tell what it was. It may have been domestic problems but that doesn't explain how or why these two people were on top of this mountain with no cars or homes for miles and no side roads to park on. Also the fact the it was very late at night and to cold and rainy to not have any clothes on. I don't believe it was anything supernatural but it was extremely odd.

[bullet maker]

Yeah, I know how you feel. In this age of anti-gun feelings--their is no telling how the scenior would have played out. Like John said, it could have been a lovers argument, in which case, your dad would have felt like an intruder, on the other hand, it could have been an abduction and rape, in which, the guy could have been hostile, and your dad would have had to kill the low life. If it was the first scenior, (a lovers spat), and the guy was hostile, and your dad had to kill him, then the gal would have probably been a witness for the state to prosecute your dad, for trying to help her. I`ve heard of that happening before.
   Back around 1970, in the prime of my youth, I was dating this hot sexy young thing that could have been a playboy centerfold. She came from a very respectful family, and had brains to boot. I had always treated her with respect. Well we was on our 5 or 6th date and we were going down a lonely highway at night when all of a sudden their was a car, and pickup truck parked beside the road, and a billyboy type character trying to pull a beautiful young women out of her car, which was apparently broke down. Now my date wanted me to go back and help the women. I had no gun, and it was late and dark, I said no. Thinking it was probably just a lovers fight. She reached into her purse, and pulled out a 38 SW snub nose pistol, and said (I SAID GO BACK). :shock:  I hit the brakes and turned around :shock: As we approached the scene, the guy took out, and never returned. The young lady was broke down, like I thought and the guy was trying to abduct her. Needless to say, she was very thankful. We took her home.
    I had all the admiration for my girlfriend for doing what she did that night.  She later, like 6 weeks later, dumped me for another guy. But I laugh to think that any guy would try to make a move on her.  

   
bullet maker

[Graybeard]

I can offer some possible explainations but certainly no definitive answer.

1. Kinky sex is always a possiblity in any such encounter. Folks do strange things.

2. A robbery set up. You have to admit most men would stop for a woman so dressed to offer assistance. The man partially hidden at the edge of woods might have been waiting to rob whoever stopped. Altho him also being unclothed makes this one less likely than #1.

3. She could have been a kidnap victim who had gotten away just before or after being raped and was being chased. Again less likely than #1 since you made no mention of her trying to flag you down. That also makes me question #2 as that too would have seemed to require her to try to flag you down.

If I put more thought into it I might come up with more. But I'm thinking kinky sex was the reason behind it. They may have been parked somewhere nearby or even camped nearby. Who knows.

Since you didn't stop all anyone will ever be able to do is conjecture.

[Simple Man]

It was cold enough for us to be wearing coats. The odd thing was the fact the it was so late on top of a ariny mounatain and there was no place to pull over a parked car and no houses for these people to come from. The girl was young and the guy was very dirty looking with long scragliy hair, big bushy beard and in no way looked like would be a couple or anything. I guess you would have to been there to see how this picture was not right.
Please note that I am not looking down on anyone with boshy beards since I wear one myself but this guy looked like someone out of the movie deliverance.  

[John]

Well, there you have it. It was a hillbilly trying to have sex with his daughter, who just might have been his wife, and they had a little boy, and he got to play the banjo on that movie you mentioned.

[bullet maker]

Hi TM7
   No, pictures, the next girlfriend I started going with, tore up the pictures.   Jealous .

   John, my friend,---you have a vivid imagination,   . But up here where we live, your scenario would be true.  :-D  :-D

bullet maker

[John]

Bulletmaker, I know what you mean :-D .

Reminds me of the time just before I married the redhead. I had to go have a serious conversation with my father.

"Dad, I don't think I can marry that gal."

" Why not son, she seems like a real sweet girl."

" Well pop, she's a virgin, iffn she ain't good enough fer her family, she ain't good enough fer ours."

Hey, some of my co-conspirators and myself took a trip over to Arkansas last April. We were in the Madison County WMA to float the Kings River, do some gravel bar camping and some smallmouth fishin'.

It's well off the beaten path, and while goin back in there on the logging roads and fire trails we all had that banjo/guitar duel playin' in out heads.

[Guy]

People are strange. Just because we can't think of a good reason for them to be there doesn't mean they couldn't think of one. I read of an account of police being called to what had been reported as either a domestic disturbance or rape. Two officers got there and, looking through a window, saw a naked man holding a knife to a naked woman's throat. He was yelling at her and she was screaming. The officers drew their weapons and ordered the man to drop the knife. He ignored them so they shot and killed him - and were promptly sued by the woman for excessive use of force. The man had been her husband, and what had appeared to be a violent crime in progress was some sort of lover's game they liked to play.

People do wierd stuff.

[1911crazy]

I wonder how many people live in the deep woods secluded out of touch with the rest of the world?

 In Vermont many years ago we had a hermit up in the national forest.  He was in the war and after the war he became a recluse and completely stayed away from the rest of the population.  Everyone knew he was there and i guess everyone would bring him stuff. Every year during hunting season my uncles would go up there and bring him warm clothes and goods(food) to help him out.  

It kind of makes me wonder if we have families like this in the backwoods out in the middle of no where just living off the land under the radar.  I guess it could still be possible even today.

[bullet maker]

BigBill, I think you hit on an interesting subject. :idea2: I can remember in my younger days, --I think I was about 10 years old, I was staying the weekend with my Aunt Janie and Uncle John. The lived in an old tar paper shack way out in the country, and had a water well, (remember when their use to be lots of old water wells, back then, and the water was safe to drink, and gooooood and cooool). They had a one seater outhouse, and a wood burning stove to cook on. Old uncle John would go to the woods, everyday, and bring home a arm load of squirrels for aunt Janie to cook up, with gravy, squirrel brains, and fried potatoes,and cornbread. I can still remember the smell of the cornbread cooking.

    Anyhow it seems their was an old guy that lived in a root seller, on the back 40 acres. Aunt Janie wasn`t comfortable with the old guy back their, and wanted uncle John to ask him to leave. Uncle John said the old man had been their for years, and had not bothered any one and the old man had no family. Now their was no roads back their, and no electric, or nothing at all. He was just an old hermit.

    Another story with my aunt and uncle that lived on 160 acres, with an old hermit that lived up in the hills in a cave. He kept stealing my uncles piglets, so my uncle went up to the hills with a gun. Never heard anything about the hermit again.

     So I`m sure their probably isn`t as many hermits as once was, but their probably still is some, it would be interesting to find them. But I suspect it would be like finding Bigfoot. :-D

bullet maker

[Graybeard]

My younger brother lived that way for 12 years. First here in Bama mostly in wooded areas along the Coosa River and then later in the swamps of FL. Even after he came back home he didn't live much differently until all those years of smoking had ruined his lungs. Emphysema set in and he had to rejoin society or die.

[IntrepidWizard]

This is a old Stop and Rob scene that goes back to the Stage coach days,eyes are riveted on the woman and others come up from behind you,since it is always possible that there is a dire need for help ,stop,put on your highs and put it in reverse for 20 feet and if the plan was robbery you will hit um and or see um.

[Dan Mich Trapper]

1. Kinky sex is always a possiblity in any such encounter. Folks do strange things.

I'm with you GB . Sounds like some of my crazy nights .lololol  

[riddleofsteel]

Many years ago I was coming home from my job as an X-Ray tech at a major hospital. It was around midnight and the road lead thru the country out in the middle of no where. As I drove along I noticed a car stopped in the road ahead. It was almost blocking the road but it looked as though I had room to pass in the other lane so I slowed down and approached the car. As I got closer to the car I noticed a young girl in jeans and a halter top in the road that was waving as if to get me to stop.
I do not know what set off my mental alarm but the scene did not seem "just right" to me. I pulled a handgun that I always carried stuck down between the seat and center console and held it down beside my leg and slowed down even more.
As I got nearer the car the girl stepped out to block the open portion of the road, again waving. I rolled down my window and she came closer to my car but did not approach my window. She was talking loudly, asking me for help and that she was broke down. I still thought something was up and scanned the area on both sides of the road.
Suddenly two men ran out of the bushes from the side of the road. I pushed the accelerator to the floorboard and burned rubber directly toward the girl in the open lane. As I got closer to her she half dove-half leaped out of the way as I sped by her. A glance in the rear view mirror revealed two men helping her up off of the pavement. In the moon light it looked as if one of the men had something either chrome or polished stainless in his hand. (probably a handgun of some sort).
This was in the days before cell phones but I did stop at the next payphone and called the highway patrol about a stopped vehicle in that location. Over the years I have often wondered if it was a setup for a robbery/kidnapping or if they were simply broken down.

[1911crazy]

It happened one night to us going home from work. We all worked together on the second shift and we all drove on this one highway home. We all passed this hot babe stuck on the side of the road her car seemed top be broke down.  We were in a pack of traffic and none of us could stop.  We later heard the next day it was a scam and a hold up for the poor bastard who stopped to help.

Now on the highway I95 it was a different story there was a blackman in the middle of the three lane highway waving his arms for the cars going south bound to stop.  I think it was a guy in a BMW or Porche who stepped on the gas only to find out the section of bridge 50' above the ground fell out.  The guy in the speeding car drove right off the edge of the opening too crashed and the driver died too besides the tractor trailer driver who went off it first.

So wether we stop or not we must slow down to check it out anyway to be sure we are not in any danger.  Here's two different examples.

[dbuz]

I drive the backroads to work and back. An older co-worker told me about this same scam that happened a few times on this road. A woman with nothing much on above the waist and jeans. He saw her once and knew something was wrong with the picture. The next poor sucker stopped and was robbed. That is why I keep my Colt .45 handy while driving. bdhaley, I would be willing to bet they had a motorcycle or some other vehicle hiding nearby.

[Simple Man]

dbuz,

Never thought of that. A bike would have been easy to hide or just not see.

[Heavy Chevy]

She stood right there,
 In the midnight air,
 With nothin on but her nightie,,,,,,,,

 That's as far as I'm going boys. Old Greybeard has already warned me once, and I like it here too much to get banned! :twisted:

 Remember,, It's only kinky the first time!

 Butch  HC

[Simple Man]

better watch calling him old cause you might get banned for life!!!!!
 :-D  :-D  :-D  :-D  :grin:

[myronman3]

Remember,, It's only kinky the first time!