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Offline e15cap

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« on: September 26, 2005, 10:36:10 AM »
Has anyone been able to put a set trigger into one of these rifles???
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« Reply #1 on: September 26, 2005, 02:41:40 PM »
No.

At one time, Canjar made a very limited run of set triggers for the Browning B-78. I once called Canjar & asked about them the trigger unit & was told thast the trigger was difficult to make & expensive w/ very little demand. But no one has been able to develop & market one for the M1885 series.

Gunsmith Lee Shaver has been able to hone the browning M1885 trigger mechanism. He charges 25.00 & you only need to send him the the trigger mechanism. It is very easy to remove the trigger assembly. Lee did mine & it breaks @ a crisp 2#.
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« Reply #2 on: September 26, 2005, 03:01:49 PM »
My trigger left for Lee this morning after a complete disaster at a match this weekend. Boy those set triggers will spoil ya.
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« Reply #3 on: September 28, 2005, 12:19:26 PM »
Folks,

The whole set trigger thing is very complex in an abstract way. While a set trigger seems to remove so much error on our part and make for an almost fool proof system. It has been proven time and time again that a really good single trigger will always out shoot a set trigger. Lock times, hammer fall etc are always better with any single trigger good or bad in the pull dept, a really good single trigger without creep or over travel and with that glass crisp trugger break are truly a thing of beauty but hard to obtain.

Now with that said few of us have that really good single trigger, while Lee Shaver does have a fix for the Browning trigger it is far from being a really good single trigger. But maybe for you fellers shooting the Browning BPCR there is a ray of hope on the shooting front. The Canjar Ray mentions was really something, Very few of these where made and few folks have ever seen one. I have a buddy that has one on his Browning and it works very well, it is without a doubt the best Single Set Trigger I have ever seen, it is so smooth and crisps that I wish that it would become available for the Browning BPCR. The two triggers on the two different Browning are simple too much different for them to interchange, or so was thought.

 I shoot a lot of matches with a retired Navy UDT-Seal member by the name of John Stepp. John fancys himself to be an amatuer gunsmith and he is pretty good at it. He is a fan of the Browning BPCR and has developed a tool that makes disassemble of the Browning BPCR a 10 second task. Thats right I said 10 seconds to disassemble the block on one of the most difficult rifles to take apart. Reassemble using Johns tool is even better and nobody not even me can screw this up. he sells these tools for almost nothing as he is a shooter and not a money maker. Well John got to looking at the Canjar trigger on the friends rifle I mentioned above, took the thing apart and played around with it some, and now has a working Single Set Trigger on his Browning BPCR rifle. This is the only Browning in the world with a single set trigger and it works very well indeed. I do not shoot a Browning in matches, hell I don't even own one. But anyone interested in this SST for the Browning post your thoughts here if john was to get a little positive feedback he would start building these I am sure.

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« Reply #4 on: September 28, 2005, 01:32:38 PM »
Gunny, Put me on that list. How do you get one of those dis-assembly tools.   Roger

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« Reply #5 on: September 28, 2005, 03:40:17 PM »
Gunny,

Thanks for the heads up on Mr. John Stepp and his gunsmithing abilities.

Have heard elsewhere of the Browning takedown kit of his engineering.

We've lot's of folks shooting the Browning 1885 BPCR models in .40-65 and .45-70 here in Southwestern New Mexico.  Likewise for Southeastern Arizona.

Put me on that list also...........
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« Reply #6 on: September 28, 2005, 04:12:53 PM »
Thanks for the heads up Gunny ,i will have to corner John at the next match ,Arnie

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« Reply #7 on: September 29, 2005, 05:58:01 AM »
Gunny,
Please pass on my name to John regarding the SSTs.  Thanks, Ed

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« Reply #8 on: September 29, 2005, 12:58:05 PM »
I would also be interested in such a trigger.  I have a Browning Mountain Rifle with a single set and always like to use it.

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« Reply #9 on: October 04, 2005, 06:38:55 AM »
Thanks for the heads up about the triggers, they seem to be the only real limiting factor for these rifles. Please keep us informed if this gentleman decides to build a few extra, I'd sure like to try one out.

Mike