Author Topic: Forest Service Test on Firearms in Brown Bear Country  (Read 887 times)

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Offline Daveinthebush

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Forest Service Test on Firearms in Brown Bear Country
« on: October 14, 2005, 03:53:14 PM »
Ths is an old report but very good reading on tests of caliber and firearm selection for the protection of forest service workers.

http://www.fs.fed.us/pnw/pubs/gtr152.pdf
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I think I've read it.
« Reply #1 on: October 17, 2005, 11:26:39 PM »
My computer and internet service is taking too long to download that report.  I'm guessing its the one they did in southeast (Petersburg?) and I think it got published in Rifle or Handloader in the mid 1980's???  The test itself was done even earlier.

If so, the one problem I had with it was I thought it short changed the 300 magnums, in part due to the limited and poor factory load bullet selection of those days.

In 1985 I set out to challenge the tests on the 300 win duplicating the tests but using home loads and a wide selection of the better 30 cal bullets then available.  Heck I gathered 200 and 220 gr Nosler, Sierra and Hornady including FMJ, Barnes 225 and 250 originals and maybe some others.  I was going to use 180 Nosler partitions as the control standard.  I was working on loads to approximate the impact velocities at 100 yards as well as normal muzzle velocities.  This was well before the Barnes X, and Win Failsafe bullets were available.

I was shooting in doors in an unheated warehouse with a chrono etc.  After getting through with about 30 test firings at the rate of about 3-5 round a night, I realized I'd taken on one heck of a chore, that it would be hard to maintain good consistency, it would take me a real long time, and that my job called.  I bagged it.  I may still have some of the data.  I think I tossed the recovered bullets.  Working up safe reduced velocity loads took a while in themselves.

I did satisfy myself that Nosler Partitions performed much better than the bullets used in the original test.  Beyond that I don't recall a lot other than I got pretty tired of the project and decided if gun writers really do all the shooting they say they do, and do careful tests, then they really earn their pay.

On a side note, we had been having vandalism problems at the warehouse before I started the tests.  One night I came out after shooting with rifle in hand and found a car load of kids in the driveway.  They scooted and I had no more vandal problems while I lived in that town.
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