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Offline connor mann

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NEF 243 range master not able to sight in rifle... Help...
« on: October 23, 2005, 01:39:04 PM »
Hello,

I took my NEF 243 to range for the first time to sight in my burris fullfield II 3x9.  Could not get it on the paper, neither could the range master. He suggested the weaver mount was way off, also the ejector only pulls the bullet out a 1/4 of an inch.

Is this common, do I need a windage mount? If so any recommedations?

thanks

Connor

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« Reply #1 on: October 23, 2005, 02:03:07 PM »
Hey connor-welcome to GreyBeards.
Sounds like the mounts to me. How is your rail? Is it secure? Many of us here, have took them off and after cleaning the screw holes, either dabing a little super glue in them or some Lok-Tight.
You might want to try the partial float on the barrel with the O-Ring too. But to me sounds like the mounting, cause you have choose a good scope=noting wrong there.
Is your model a new one? And if so is it a Ejector or Extractor?

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« Reply #2 on: October 23, 2005, 03:16:32 PM »
Don't know how new to shooting you are, but have a couple questions that may, to someone experienced sound assinine, but no insults intended as silly things do happen;

When you hold hte rifle up to your shoulder, in what directions are the elevation and windage turrents pointed? Elevation (up/down) should be on top at 12 o'clock. Windage (left/right) should be on the right at 3 o'clock.

Again, may sound ridiculous but where were the bullets landing in relationship to where you were pointing? One foot, 2 feet, 5 feet off? It is entirely possible that the scope is broken, but without knowing how or where the bullets are falling, it is impossible to tell.

Finally at what range where you shooting? 25 yards should be the maximum distance when first setting up a fresh rig, untill it is well zero'ed. One can then move to either 50 or 100 yards, but starting at 25 yards and shooting on a 4x4 sheet of plywood makes it a lot easier to find where the rifle is shooting.

Finally, always, always, always shoot in groups of three before moving your sight settings. This is one way we determine if the scope is broken. Without knowing where you are hitting, and how much you are moving, and where the group goes after that, you can chase your fanny till sundown and not wipe it.

Before going to the range again, double check your rail and mount screws. Assume nothing. Check and be sure the screws are secure, do not over tighten them, breaking them off will make matters worse. Be sure the mounts are not over tightened on the scope tube and have dented/warped it. If this condition exists, a new scope is warrented.

If all is ok, set the rifle up on a pad with the actin open where you can see down the barrel. Choose a picture, phone, blot on the wall. Look through the scope... Where is it? MOve the elevation/windage adjustments OPPOSITE the indicated direction and see if the scope moves where it should go. This is a rudimentary form of bore sighting, but is effective in determining if the recticle is moving properly. Move ony one direction at a time, up or down, then left or right as needed.

If the recticle does not respond properly the scope is broken, and I would suspect a broken scope before a misaligned rail.

Good Luck

Edit: Your barrel is equipped with an extractor, not an ejector, it will lift the cartridge partially, as you describe, it will not eject it. However, you will likely never suffer a stuck case.
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« Reply #3 on: October 23, 2005, 03:54:47 PM »
Thanks for the fast replies.

So I have an extractor not an ejector... Makes sense

I could not determine where the bullets were going so I don't how far off the bullets were.

The rangemaster used a bore scope, two different ones, to borescope the rifle but still could not get the windage far enough to get on paper. It appears the scope is turned  to the left a little and is not centered on the rifle.  

I am thinking of using burris signature zee rings and the offsets to bring the actual scope body in line with the rifle.

Connor

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« Reply #4 on: October 23, 2005, 04:56:52 PM »
How far away did you start to sight in at? 100yards?
If so try 50 or so to at least get you on paper. But remember that at 25 and 50 little things are magnified a lot at 100. Just a little caution.

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« Reply #5 on: October 24, 2005, 03:20:57 PM »
Open the rifle and rest it on the back of a chair with the barrel supported by a pillow on a table.  Look down the barrel and out a window from the breach end and find some item at 100 to 300 yards you can see through the bore, I use the top of a tree.  Move the rifle so you do not have to hold it to see whatever you are looking at, then just move your head and look through the scope and see where it is pointing, this will tell you if you are even close, and it will most likely get you on the paper at 100 yards if you are careful.  Larry
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