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« on: November 01, 2005, 03:16:54 AM »
Howdy all  :D

  Been lurking and finally registered.   Custom Marlin 1895GS (non-ported), aftermarket parts, some careful polishing/honing, hand-rubbed oil finish stock and my own hard-won tried-and-true handloads...this slicked up GS has been my partner on many a hunt throughout USA and 2 trips to Africa.  

  Narrowed my loads down to the Hornady 350 JRN for general use over RE7 @ 1,950 fps and for heavy's the CPB 460 WFNGC @ 1,650 fps.  It's all I need...enjoy stalking close to within 100 yards, but she's good out to about 200.  Great for the heavy brush and the meaner critters.

  Have enjoyed reading your posts! :grin:
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« Reply #1 on: November 01, 2005, 03:46:19 AM »
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Welcome to GBO, I for one am glad to have you on line and share some hunting stories with you. I love my 45-70s and find my self carrying one with me almost every where I go. I have two 1895s one Stainless and the other blue with the compensator which I am not to proud of but it shoots good, I did have a cowboy but let a buddy trade me out of it, Also had a Ruger #1 in 45-70 but didn't like the way it felt and handled. Again welcome to the forum and hope to hear from you some more. :toast: .........Joe...........
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« Reply #2 on: November 01, 2005, 04:14:35 AM »
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Welcome aboard here... many more of us love the 45-70 as well as 45-90's too  :-D

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« Reply #3 on: November 01, 2005, 04:22:20 AM »
oso,

  Appreciate the reply.  

  With bullet weights from under 300 grs. up to 550 grs. or more, the shorter 18.5" barrel and light carrying weight (I never use a sling, gets in the way when stalking) the 45-70 cartridge, though much maligned by some, is my favorite.  I have never had an occasion for concern with its ability to knock game flat at reasonable ranges, which to me is around 100 yards.  

  In June of '04 I was hunting Limpopo Bushbuck in South Africa with another hunter, a PH (Prof. Hunter) & two Zulu trackers.  It was heavy thick thornbush, tall reeds and trees near a a dry river bed.  The PH had instructed us that bushbuck can be very aggressive when cornered or wounded, so make the first shot count!  If it is wounded, be ready for a quick action and stay alert!  Just in case you are not aware, a mature Bushbuck is about 120 lbs. and has 12 to 17 inch knife-like spiral horns that are very sharp and they know how to use them to best effect.

  We were walking through the thick stuff and we all saw a quick movement out ahead at about 40 yards.  The PH checked it out with his binocs and pointed out a mature male broadside to us in the heavy shadows of a large acacia (thorn) tree.  After a few seconds I had him spotted, raised my GS offhand (it has a 4X Leupold due to old eyes), found his shoulder and sent a 350 gr. JRN on its way...

  After the smoke cleared, he was nowhere to be found!  The PH asked if I hit him several times as we searched the area where he had been...I answered yes each time, but he didn't seem convinced.  Everybody was tense and was getting that panicked look...I was beginning to doubt my own sanity.  After what seemed like hours, but was no more than 3 minutes, one of the Zulu trackers let out a yell and pointed to a spot about 50 ft. from where we had originally seen the buck.   He was stone dead!  The 350 grainer had hit him point of shoulder and exited in the same exact spot on the other side.  Both shoulders were broke and he had still made it out of our sight!

  The PH hurried us back out about 100 yards to a dirt road and called the cruiser on his hand-held radio.   We loaded the buck and the PH said we needed to find a safer place for pictures, "...too many nasties about in here!"   I learned later that crocs, hippo, brown cobras and plenty of other buckbuck were everywhere.  I even took a pic of the "Beware of..." sign just off the main road out of the property.   It was a great hunt and the 45-70 was the ideal gun for the task! :grin:
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« Reply #4 on: November 01, 2005, 07:37:29 AM »
The only reason I own a .35 Remington, is because I couldn't find a used 45-70.  I got the oportunity to hold a Marlin Cowboy at one of our local Gun Stores, another Gun Store had a Winchester 86.  I liked the weight of both of these.

But the downfall of the Winchest 86 is that statement on the barrel, Made in Japan

For me pointability is very good on the Marlin Cowboy, I'm not looking for a GG with 18.5" although I could be swung toward the Marlin 1895 of 22", and then I would still have the tube replaced with a full length tube  :-D

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« Reply #5 on: November 01, 2005, 11:56:09 AM »
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I Never had the opportunity to go to Africa but have a bunch of friends that have gone and i have listened to their stories with great interest. I Spent a number of years guiding and hunting Bear and Lion in northern New Mexico, Arizona and Colorado in the early50s and 60s and have been through a few rodeos my self. A person never knows what he might stir up when he gets to a tree with a lion or bear in it, Some times every thing goes as planned and some time all hell breaks loose and people, dogs, and horses go in every possible direction and you just hope you don't have a failure to fire when you get the shot. In case you might be wandering what the oso stands for, Its a handle the mexican people came up with which means Bear in spanish, Which is another story.  :yeah:  :D ......Joe........
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« Reply #6 on: November 01, 2005, 02:55:11 PM »
I love the 45-70 too. I had a ported 1895 Guide Gun and really liked it. The only reason I no longer have it is a 1886 Extra light.... I hope to have another Marlin one of these days. 8)

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« Reply #7 on: November 01, 2005, 03:52:36 PM »
I'm pretty pleased with my Stainless guide gun too.  I only use one load in mine 405gr JSP at 1950fps. Either the 405gr remington bulk bullet or the Kodiak bonded.  I can't think of a better rifel for hunting out to 200 yards.  I carry mine quite often and it is a constant camp companion when in bear country, wich is pretty much anywhere up here.   I really like the scout scope setup and between that and the ghost rings think they are about the best setup for close fast action.



WHen you wake up and find tracks like these less than 30 yars from your tent it makes you feel a little better to have the guide gun sleeping next to you.  Thats my size 13 boot print for scale next to the track.

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« Reply #8 on: November 02, 2005, 03:58:16 AM »
Hey guys,

  Yeah, I thoroughly enjoy a good hunting story/adventure yarn...   I try hard to keep mine factual, but it is all in the interpretation...eh? :)

  Bears have always been a fascination of mine, but have never had the chance to hunt them in their wild native habitat.  I have a lot of respect for any predator, they work hard to stay alive, not just munch on grass like herbivores.   A nice silvertip grizzly hunt with my GS would be a real draw, maybe in BC.  I can only dream and hope...there's always tomorrow! :wink:

  And, I am very narrow-minded when it comes to hunting rifles...have taken my share of game with a good scoped bolt-gun, but just not as satisfying as up close with that short-barrelled big bullet thrower 45-70. 8)

  At close to 52, I still have more than a few good years (I hope) to walk the hunting grounds with with my Marlin blunderbuss.  Next stop is big hogs...feral, razorback, pure strain russian, etc. in TN, MO, TX or wherever.   Me thinks that 350 gr. JRN from Hornady over a nice charge of RE7 should get me some good wild ribs, chops & hams and maybe a nice tusker skull to put beside my 12" warthog... :grin:
Hunting for me is the challenge of stalking up close with a great rifle, your own handloads and the skill to use them for a quick humane kill on worthy quarry.