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Offline ScoutMan

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« on: October 30, 2005, 07:25:16 AM »
Jeff Cooper keeps singing the praises of the steyr scout stock design. He calls it the most "user friendly" stock he has ever used.

Does anyone know why this stock should be anymore "user friendly" than the conventional stocks that we are used too.
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« Reply #1 on: October 30, 2005, 04:58:49 PM »
I believe what he is praising is the entire concept. This includes the use of a low/medium power forward mounted scope and the concept of a well fitting rifle.. This allows the scout to direct aimed fire at a target to assist his disengagement and assist in his survival.. I believe the forward mounted scope makes target aquisition as easy as anything I've ever used but absolute precision does suffer some. The Savage built scout rifles were for a time hot items in this area. The fact is that most folks don't need the capability and are better served with a less distinctive rifle.
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« Reply #2 on: November 06, 2005, 05:59:55 AM »
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You can separate the features of the scout concept. Cooper praises the design of the steyr stock as well as the quality  of the steyr trigger release.

True, the scout scope is part of the concept, but it is not over riding.

A scout can be had without a telescope; it can be had with a ghost ring.

What has been pushed down but is essential to the concept is weight: 6lbs 9 oz. and length: 1 meter- 39".

True, the weight limit has been raised to 3.5 kilos (7 lbs 12 oz) but, the closer you approach the optimum, the handier the rifle will be.

As an aside, I have a Ruger Compact that has been retrofitted with the Ashley ghost ring rear and post front sight. With sling and unloaded, it is a joy.

Comments welcomed.
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« Reply #3 on: November 07, 2005, 05:25:01 AM »
I understand there are several factors that make a scout rifle but believe the concept is what is important. I seem to remember Cooper opining that a 30-30 would make an acceptable scout rifle. Light, handy and acceptably powerful for it's intended use. A ghost ring is one option the forward counted scope is another. I prefer the scope in deference to my failing eyesight,,,,.. The steyr scout in 376 steyr is a bit more powerful than might be needed for the use to which the scout concept was originated to deal with. A medium power round, accuracy sufficient to bail the scouts hindquarters out of a tight situation, and not something to instigate a firefight with. Still we can devise several permutations that can fulfil the concepts prerequisites but the concept is still the most important factor..
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« Reply #4 on: November 10, 2005, 10:01:03 AM »
True.

But to be called a "Scout" it must containl all the attributes.

Anything else is a "pseudo" scout.
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