Author Topic: 454 bullet in a 410/45 colt NEF (Read 727 times)

jl7030 · « **on:** November 17, 2005, 07:45:57 AM »

I went to my gunsmiths house last night. We actually put a 454 casull bullet in my NEF 45colt/410 rifle and it seated completely and closed with no problem. He said that if it would do that, then I could probably shoot the 454 bullet in it. any opinions on that from anybody?

quickdtoo · « **Reply #1 on:** November 17, 2005, 08:55:45 AM »

I wouldn't recommend it, the 454 casull generates twice the pressure of the 45 colt, at 50,000CUP compared to 25,000CUP for the colt. I think it would ruin the SB1 frame. Might work fine on an SB2 frame, though.

http://www.leverguns.com/articles/saami_pressures.htm

EDIT: And welcome aboard!!

Here's a comparison of the cartridge dimensions...

jl7030 · « **Reply #2 on:** November 17, 2005, 09:05:31 AM »

thanks for the info. where can i get a good load to deer hunt with and be able to shoot around 100 yds.

quickdtoo · « **Reply #3 on:** November 17, 2005, 09:30:37 AM »

I don't know what kind of velocities you can get out of the 45/410 barrel with standard ammo, but handgun velocities leave it well short of a 100yd deer cartridge, even if the unsighted 45/410 barrel had sights or a scope mount.

http://www.chuckhawks.com/45Colt.htm

If you can load up some of the +P ammo or buy some from Corbon, you'll be on the right track...

http://mysite.elixirlabs.com/index.php?uid=12665&page=1625

http://www.reloadammo.com/45cload.htm

stimpylu32 · « **Reply #4 on:** November 17, 2005, 01:08:33 PM »

jl7030--Welcome

First off the 45/410 was never designed to be a 100 yard gun , granted it may shoot 100 yards but how accuratly is anyones guess .

As for your gunsmith telling you that if it fits , then it should shoot is just plain dangerous .

Tim is right about standard 45 lc handgun ammo not being up to snuff , your best bet would be to get a 44 mag or 45/70 handi with a sb2 frame .

Richard

lostchild · « **Reply #5 on:** November 19, 2005, 07:28:19 AM »

I have a 45/410 handy, it's a fun gun. With just the bead sight and .45 loads that equal the acp bulls eye load ( 5gr unique under a 200gr lswc) I could hit a clay pigeon at 100 yds 8 out of 10 times, but this is not a hunting load ( or a quick sight picture ). When loaded with heavier loads (21gr H110 under a 300gr xtp or jfp) I could still make the same hits but used a LOT of kentucky windage. I had a scope mounted and things got better quicker site picture and more hits with both loads. If I were to rescope I would use a red dot ( don't have to take the scope off to shoot the 410 shells). hope this helps.....lost