Author Topic: Best QD Scope Rings? (Read 1511 times)

mibighntr · « **on:** October 14, 2005, 05:10:42 AM »

Anyone have any experiences with some really good Quick Detachable scope rings to fit a Weaver type base??

Thanks!

Mark

Keith L · « **Reply #1 on:** October 14, 2005, 12:38:48 PM »

I don't think any of them are worth considering. They tend to be weak due to the small cross section of the removable part on the rings, and I have never seen any that truly hold zero. If the scope is moved from gun to gun it has to be re-sighted in each time. I can't see any advantage to them. Sorry. Perhaps someone else has a better opinion for you.

lefty o · « **Reply #2 on:** October 14, 2005, 07:35:50 PM »

leupold QRW rings. if properly remounted , they will rezero accurately for all but a benchrest shooter.

gunnut69 · « **Reply #3 on:** October 15, 2005, 11:11:35 AM »

The weaver base makes things difficult. The weaver rings are fairly easy to remove but the bases aren't ussually a close enough fit for the scope to be truly detachable. Still standard weaver rings can usually be removed and will return 'close enough' to zero.. Detachable rings can allow the carrying of a backup scope(scope failure is less a problem than it once was) and can allow the same rifle to be used for several purposes that present differing optical challenges.

Keith L · « **Reply #4 on:** October 16, 2005, 03:33:42 AM »

Quote from: lefty o

leupold QRW rings. if properly remounted , they will rezero accurately for all but a benchrest shooter.

I am no benchrest shooter and have not had that experience. While the gun will still pattern at 100 yards the group moves as much as one inch. I am not comfortable with that. If you are go ahead and use them.

CJ · « **Reply #5 on:** October 18, 2005, 06:13:43 PM »

I have Warne QDs on Weaver bases on my Marlin 45/70 and .357mags. Both have been removed and returned several times just to see what happens, both held zero. However 10yrs after fooling aroud with them Ive never taken them off again , and probably wouldnt use them again. As already said if you put the scope on another gun you will need to resight. And in the unlikly event of scope failure standard Weaver rings are easy enough to remove. I guess if you had two scopes for the same rifle {high power, low power or a backup} they may be a plus.

CIG · « **Reply #6 on:** October 21, 2005, 06:24:47 AM »

I use Leupold QR Mounts on a rifle I use for both hunting and silhouette shooting. One scope for hunting and one for the sport. I have not had to reset the scopes on switching once. I'm shooting rams at 500 meters using this system and from the bench they retain 3 inch groups. Now I lapped them real well, so maybe that makes a difference.

gunnut69 · « **Reply #7 on:** October 21, 2005, 09:27:37 AM »

I must point out that the Leupold rings are likely the best of the readily available rings but they DO NOT fit Weaver type bases. They only fit the special QD bases profuced by Leupold. Once again the Weaver bases are going to limit your choices radically!

lefty o · « **Reply #8 on:** October 21, 2005, 11:06:08 PM »

i beg to differ. i own several sets of leupold QRW rings, but not one set of leupold bases. they fit anybodys standardized weaver type bases.

Keith L · « **Reply #9 on:** October 22, 2005, 01:39:51 AM »

There are two styles of Leupold quick release rings. One style and the ones I have tried in the past are QR style which uses a totally different principle than Weaver bases and will not interchange. I see Leupold also has QRW rings that appear to be designed to use with Weaver bases. Pictures are available on the Leupold web page.

gunnut69 · « **Reply #10 on:** October 22, 2005, 07:15:26 AM »

Once again I've failed to make my point. There are several companies that make quick release rings for the weaver style bases of which the weaver rings are as good as any.. The problem is with the design of the bases them selves. The mounts don't always return to zero reliably! The leupold rings that do return in a reliable manner are their cam lock rings. The versions which fit the weaver bases are crippled by the bases..and are more expensive to boot.. There are other styles of mounts that will return to zero regularly when removed and replaced but nothing that I know of that fits the weaver bases..

Mac11700 · « **Reply #11 on:** October 26, 2005, 08:24:48 AM »

Well...at least for this Weaver base system..it holds rather well..and the QWR's from Leupold allow me to remove the scope and put it back on when cleaning the rifle...It hasn't shifted it's zero over 1/8"...in more than a dozen times being on and off.They also make it easy to have a back up scope just in-case one gets damaged on a hunt to switch out..Sure they cost a-little more than say the PRW rings..but the whole idea is for quick and easy removal and being able to put a scope already zeroed in back in place without having to go thru the hassle all over again..Some folks use them so they can remove the scope and use open sites..that works too..provide you got high enough sites to see over the rails...

Mac

Nobade · « **Reply #12 on:** October 26, 2005, 03:44:54 PM »

Well, so far nobody has mentioned Leupold's MK4 rings. Those and Badger's will easily return to zero each and every time if used properly. We have plenty of competitive shooters bring rifles through the shop using these rings, with either Weaver Grand Slam bases or the essentially same Leupold MK4, who routinely swap scopes around and have never heard any complaints. Granted, these are terribly expensive ways to hold a scope but if you've got a $2K scope on a $4K rifle what's a couple hundered bucks?

miket_81 · « **Reply #13 on:** November 24, 2005, 05:24:44 AM »

I have Warne QR rings on my encore and am very suprised on how well they work. The other day I did a test and shot removed and remounted then shot about in the same hole, just slightly offset enough that i could tell that there were two.
MT

Brithunter · « **Reply #14 on:** December 04, 2005, 06:52:16 AM »

Hi All,

Well I have been trying out various Quickly detachable mounts for my traveling trips so far I have used the following :-

Hilver Lever mount rings with Tikka style bases. These do seem to return to zero but ............. but can be put on incorrectly as I did on a trip to Scotland and missed a Roe Buck due this which caused the rifle to shoot way low :oops:

Weavers, also seem to return to zero but for some reason I am just not happy with them, I think it's the way the slot gets peened by recoil over time.

Apel EAWSwing, these are the Bees Knees but expensive, all steel and yes they DO return to zero :grin: Oh and they have windage adjustment in the rear base.

Apel Roll off mounts, although the makers do not claim that these return to zero I have found that they do, again steel mounts and bases of high quality and I now have two rifles fitted with them. These also have windage adjustment in them.

Leupold QR lever mounts and bases, although they seem to work I was dissappointed with their poor fit to the action on the P-H1200 rifle and they are too high to allow the open iron sights to be used :? which defeats part of the object of allowing them to be used as back up. They have now been fitted by a Gunsmith at extra cost so this is one type I will not be buying again

I also have some Hilver (Now Lynx) mounts for the Brno 601 which do return to zero and I will be getting some for the BSA Majestic and 1st Pattern Monarch that fit their dovetailed actions which I fully expect to perfom well and return to zero

I believe that Warne makes steel weaver type bases which are claimed to return to zero. Also a friend uses a custom Savage which has a special Pitcany rails fited with some elevation built in for long range shooting. He uses one scope for Benchrest and 600 yard High power comps and another for hunting. When he switched scopes from the 24x target scope to his Weaver Grand Slam scope for hunting at 300 yards it was only 1 1/2" off which could also be the difference in tempreture, elevation and humidity chamnges.