Author Topic: Use for a 28ga in PA - From a new hunter and old gun nut, but for the wife  (Read 1012 times)

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Offline BattleRifleG3

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I like guns and excuses to buy them.  As far as hunting goes, I'm relatively short experienced.  I'm a huge fan of versatile hunting arms, ie 30 caliber rifles and 12ga shotguns.  Also a fan of having the best tool for the game involved, and using that to justify a new gun.

There's one potential aquisition that has me in a dilemna.  While I would use a 12ga with various chokes and various sizes of shot for a wide variety of game, my wife can't stand the recoil.  She loves her 8mm Mauser, but a 12ga Moss 590 hits her harder than she likes.  I personally feel they're comparable, but maybe I'm just numb.

My main goal is to try to get her to like the idea of hunting, and shotgun recoil thus far turns her off.  I try to explain that a 20ga would be lower recoil than a 12, but having fired a 20ga single shot without a pad and not liking it, a technical explanation of how a 20ga pump would be less would probably fall on deaf ears.

So with recoil reduction being the primary motivation, I'm considering getting her a 28ga Rem 870.  The problem - $$$.  The 870 Express in 28ga is discontinued, and the Wingmaster is priced too high.  So I'm facing the prospect of having to get a 28ga now or never.  The only other option would be a Charles Daly autoloader, which I wouldn't be a fan of.

The plot thickens further.  Neither of us is interested in hunting every type of animal out there.  Only the ones where both the hunt and the meat are agreeable.  I have been hoping to get a 10ga BPS for waterfowl, but have realized that I should try eating some first.

So the simple question with the long introduction is what animals would one hunt in western PA that a 28ga shotgun would be good for?  If they are animals we'd be interested in eating, I think I may see about getting the wife a 28ga Rem 870.  If not, the 28ga shotguns prey can run free from me, and others can pick up the last 28ga Remington 870s.
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Offline davem270win

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The 28 ga should be adequate for any upland game you encounter in PA, including grouse, rabbit, pheasant, squirrel, etc. It's probably not enough for waterfowl and turkey. The shooter would have to be aware of the gauge's limitations.
If money is a concern, I would suggest a modern 20 ga semi with a recoil pad and proper fit, using lighter loads, would not kick any more than a 28, and give you some more flexibility for different types of game.
With choke tubes, either gauge would allow one gun to serve several purposes.

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I may have the answer to your problem. I Picked up a Charles Daly mod. 106 O/U in 28ga just to check it out(that, and I got it for $400 delivered) It is a nice light (6 lbs) shooter, with choke tubes, and auto safety. I've run like 800 rounds through it with no hiccups of any kind. I've shot Skeet and Sporting Clays, and did quite well given the small guage. At Skeet it has shot consistent 23-24's. Use the right loads and it'll take any upland game you want.

That price is dealer price plus S&H from Jerry's in PA. Find a dealer who will order one for $20-$25 and your a hero on Mothers Day. I let a friend's girl of the month use it for SC, and she shot a 100 rounds with no problem. She was 5'3" and 100 lbs, no problem.
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You might try that 20 ga. single shot again, with lead in the stock and a good pad, my wife shoots one without the lead and it does not bother her.  the pad is essential though and a proper fitting stock. We used a Limbsaver pad, slip on kind on a NEF Pardner. Not an expensive set up at all.  Plus you can get the barrels with chokes so its more versatile.
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Gauge mates or Little Skeeter gauge reducers can be used in any of your pumps, you'll only be limited to two shots though.  They can be had in just about all gauges.  They pattern the same through chokes and reduce recoil.  They run about 50-60 bucks for two.  I used them for my son and it was a lot cheaper until he grows into something bigger.  Also don't take up any room in the safe for those better purchases.
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Has she tried reduced recoil loads in 12 GA ? recoil is a product of the load and the weight of the gun ! A 12 ga. shooting a 7/8 oz load should have less felt recoil than a lighter 20 ga. shooting an equal load ! When my sons started hunting at about 8 they got 12 ga 870's with cut down stocks and used very light loads , buckshot can be had in reduced loads ( they reduce the # of shot which is what you do anyway with a lighter ga. ) , the 28 is a nice gun but the shells are high in cost and short on loadings , some nontoxic loads are around for ducks up close but cost more than 12ga.mag. haven't seen buckshot or slugs , but have seen slugs for reloading in 28ga. an auto might help also a rem. 1100 would fit as well as the 870 if local laws permit there use !
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You are correct in thinking of getting away from recoil. It hurts everyone shooting, even if they don't know it yet. Be very careful of light 20 gauges, they can kick as much as a 12. The 28 will work and there is even some good hunting ammo in factory loads, but all 28s are expensive. Are you planning on reloading? The 20 auto might be an option, it would allow the use of heavier loads and not kick any more than a 28 gauge pump.  You might find a used 1100 in 20 gauge that wouldn't break the bank. With heavy-shot it makes a good goose and duck gun as well as being good for turkeys. The cheap OUs are OK if you are not going to shoot them too much. Make sure the gun fits your wife, and is not too long, it is the kick in the face, not the shoulder that causes flinch. Good luck and keep hunting with your wife. Shotgunner
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I was strictly a 12g guy ( I own around 15 different ones) up until last year when a cousin of mine was selling an old remington 1100 in 28.  I used it pheasant hunting and dropped everyone with the first shot.  This was over a pointer and the shots were close but I was VERY impressed with the small caliber and the gun is so light you almost forget you are carrying it.  It is now my favorite shotgun.  The shells are a little pricey so I bought a reloader for it.  My 12's will probably sit the the cabinet unless I'm hunting turkey

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Why not a 20 ga in a semi-auto?  they are very "soft shooting".  A 20 ga in a single shot or in a pump is brutal in recoil to me and I'm 185 pounds.  We got a 20 ga pump for my younger son when he was a lad but it was awful on him/his shoulder.  The Remington/Spartan line of Side by Sides and O/U guns are made well for the pricing.

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I've used a 28 here in Central PA for bunnies and squirrels with good success.  I took it along to hunt pheasant, but did not have a chance to take a shot yet. I'm sure it would do fine though.

H&R makes a nice Pardner single shot 28. Can't beat the price on those.

The Wingmaster is a bit pricey, but man are they nice shotguns, eh?