Author Topic: Powder Granulation (Read 626 times)

BeeMan · « **on:** December 10, 2005, 02:29:46 PM »

I am getting back into traditional blackpowder once again after shelving it for about 25 years. I am shooting a .45 cal TC hawken. The original literature says to use 2F powder. The Goex website also says to use 2F powder, but some people have told me that I can use 3F too. Is this ok, and will I still use the same volume? Thanks!

roundball · « **Reply #1 on:** December 10, 2005, 02:40:33 PM »

Quote from: BeeMan

I am getting back into traditional blackpowder once again after shelving it for about 25 years. I am shooting a .45 cal TC hawken. The original literature says to use 2F powder. The Goex website also says to use 2F powder, but some people have told me that I can use 3F too. Is this ok, and will I still use the same volume? Thanks!

I have TC Hawkens also...I use Goex 3F for my .45/.50/.54cal round ball loads.

The industry rule of thumb is to simply reduce the 2F load data by 10-15% to keep the approximate same pressure.

ie: For 100grns of 2F, simply use 85-90grns of 3F.

Enjoy!

slayer · « **Reply #2 on:** December 10, 2005, 03:01:58 PM »

RB, what is the benefit of using 3F over 2F? I know you will use less of it, but any other benefits? Thanks-Jack.

roundball · « **Reply #3 on:** December 10, 2005, 04:15:58 PM »

Quote from: slayer

RB, what is the benefit of using 3F over 2F? I know you will use less of it, but any other benefits? Thanks-Jack.

It's smaller granulation = faster ignition, particularly important in a Flintlock;

Also, it's smaller granulation = more complete combustion which means a lot less fouling;

I shoot 40-50 shot range sessions with 3F most weekends year round and don't have to wipe between shots...when I switched from percussions & Pyrodex to Flintlocks & Goex, and saw how fast, clean, and accurate Goex was, I rezeroed my percussions to Goex also...outstanding powder, and if ordered by the case, about $10/;lb delivered to your front porch.

BeeMan · « **Reply #4 on:** December 10, 2005, 05:24:14 PM »

Where can it be ordered for that price?

slayer · « **Reply #5 on:** December 11, 2005, 01:19:07 AM »

Thanks RB!! I am almost out of Goex FFG and then will try the FFFG and reduce the load. Yes Sir, where can we get it for $10 a can? Also, should I still stick with FFG for my 12 gauge New Englander? I heard FFFG is not good in shotguns? Thanks-Jack.

roundball · « **Reply #6 on:** December 11, 2005, 02:07:21 AM »

Beeman and Slayer...I order my cases from this Goex Distributor...and they'll mix a case any way you want...for example, I order a case mixed:
4F - 1 can
3F - 20 cans
2F - 4 cans

Attn: Bonnie
J&J Pyrotechnics Mfg, Inc.
Goex Master Distributor
RR #3 Box 3367G
Moscow, PA 18444
Toll Free = 877-748-3473
Fax = 570-842-1206
WWW.JJPYROTECHNICS.COM

I've ordered a total of 4 cases from them now...my last case delivered during the summer was $10.25.lb

Heres the URL to the Goex website showing the locations of Goex Distributors nationwide...click on the can of your choice:

http://www.goexpowder.com/distributors.html

slayer · « **Reply #7 on:** December 11, 2005, 12:16:48 PM »

Thanks RB!! How much was shipping? Poop, I have to pay Tax, I am from PA

Jack.

roundball · « **Reply #8 on:** December 11, 2005, 12:41:16 PM »

Quote from: slayer

Thanks RB!! How much was shipping? Poop, I have to pay Tax, I am from PA Jack.

It was $257 delivered to my door...that included everything...shipping, handling, haz-mat, etc...

slayer · « **Reply #9 on:** December 11, 2005, 01:06:09 PM »

Thanks man!! Jack.

clodbuster · « **Reply #10 on:** December 15, 2005, 06:23:08 AM »

BeeMan If you go to the thread "what's the difference in powders?" There is a lengthy article in there by Bill Knight , bp expert extraordinaire,
that will tell you more than you can hope to know about your question.
It explodes many old black powder myths with hard evidence and facts.