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Offline kombi1976

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Frustration in the field....I need a combo or drilling!!
« on: March 09, 2006, 08:03:57 PM »
Ever had one of those days? Well, Wednesday was one of them. Work was shocking and I knew it was going to spill over into the afternoon's shooting.

I periodically cull roos for friends who own a small 200 acre cattle farm. They raise heifers and then sell them on so whatever feed they have is fairly important to keep. Most of the time they have at least 100 roos on the place who freeload and this was no exception. Now to cull roos you need tags as they're a protected species. However the National Parks & Wildlife Service only issued them with 5 tags!! We usually get tags for about 10% but it was less than 5% this time as they'd stated 120 roos on the application. Add to that the fact that their neighbours aren't fond of shooters and have caused problems before and you're in a tight spot. After some discussion we agreed that myself and the odd friend should come out early in the morning or late in the arvo, knock one or 2 over and then leave. The plan seemed fine but some days it's all against you.

We stopped just inside the front gate and loaded up. My mate had a blued/walnut Weatherby Vanguard Deluxe in .243 Win & I was packing a my sportered k98 8x57JS. Overkill really but it was it's first outing since I mounted it with a scope. Not 100yds inside the property the roos were moving across a slope in a mob of about 50. One came so close to my mate it almost ran into him and realised it's mistake at the last minute. He aimed at another, let fly, missed and the mob bid us good day! We circled around & tried to find them but they were gone. For the next 3 hours we then chased 2 small roos and a big male we'd stumbled upon back and forth across the paddocks. I almost knocked the big male down twice but each time he was on the crest of a rise, in front of stock or a building or moved at the last instant. Bunnies kept on popping up and with my .25-20 Martini they would've been a goner. The German cannon, however, was no where near suitable so I had to watch them despairingly as they hopped away to safety.

The score......hunters: zero. :(
I couldn't help but think when I staggered in the door and pried my boots off to rest my aching feet, that with a 12g/7x57R combo or similar drilling in hand that it would've yielded at least one bunny for the pot if not more. Did we waste our time? No. We know where to lie in wait next time, but it was disappointing nonetheless.

How many of you guys have found that you combo or drilling has really come up useful when unexpected small game or large game appeared? Do you keep one in the chamber just in case?
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« Reply #1 on: March 09, 2006, 09:10:49 PM »
The combo would have allowed you to enjoy the tasty rabbit but also would have allowed you to take those close in shot on mr. roo.  Especially, the one that almost ran you over. :grin:

For the most versatility you whould look for a combo that supports screw in chokes.  My combo has IM M and F, Rifled and Turkey chokes.

Good luck...

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« Reply #2 on: March 09, 2006, 11:18:28 PM »
Back when we raised beef up in Cole County, Missouri, I always carried a firearm of some type, almost always a handgun or rifle, when checking cattle, fences, etc., etc.  After being caught in situations similar to yours, where I was carrying one firearm and needed another, I did exactly what you're describing.  I bought an Inman Meffert 16X16 over 7X57R.  I'd recommend something similar.

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« Reply #3 on: March 10, 2006, 02:58:48 AM »
I guess I should start putting away for a drilling when I've finished the current projects.
Problem is they're so darned expensive! :(
We plan on getting a mortgage in the next 12 months so perhaps when we're settled into that I can start squirreling stuff away.
At least they hold value. :|
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« Reply #4 on: March 10, 2006, 06:15:31 AM »
Look at the Baikal (used) or Spartan Gunworks or Savage combos they are resonably priced.

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« Reply #5 on: March 11, 2006, 03:29:42 AM »
I like the Savages but unfortunately they don't chamber the more interesting European cartridges. :(
I guess beggars can't be choosers though. :oops:  :wink:
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« Reply #6 on: March 11, 2006, 06:39:51 AM »
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Look at the Baikal (used) or Spartan Gunworks or Savage combos they are resonably priced.


  I can't believe you didn't include the Valmet 412's????  And to think you want one so bad too, are you trying to save them all for yourself???  

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« Reply #7 on: March 11, 2006, 12:02:14 PM »
The Valmets are great.  But for a brush gun that will be beat up, I have to stay with the Baikal or Savage.  The Valmet is too nice for this environemt.  Also, I have come to the conclusion that screw in chokes are the way to go for a combo gun, as they let me chose the right choke (rifled, turkey, F, M, IM) for the application.

But I will change my mind if you ship me a Valmet... :D  :-D

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« Reply #8 on: March 12, 2006, 08:39:04 AM »
When i became a Valmet dealer over 20 years ago (i'm no longer a gun dealer) i kept the very first 412 that i got in.  I still have it today, and i wish i had a picture of it handy to show to you.  It's been all over the bush of Alaska, it's been drug out in all kinds of conditions, from small bush planes, boats, and canoes.  It's NOT all beat up and still functions like new.  It's never failed in any way, and still is tight and shoots like it did when new!  I just don't understand the mentality of owning a quality firearm and then refuseing to use it for hunting, when it fits the need!  

  Today i'm hunting with my old drilling.  It's been rebuilt to, much "better than new" with everything upgraded to my likeing.  I also drag this gun all over with me, and it also has been in boats, canoes ect.. ect..  Both of these guns still look pretty nice, and neither are all beat up!

  Buy the gun of your dreams, use it for all of your hunting, and then leave it to your family to apreciate how much you loved it and used it!!

  Happy shooting!  

  BTW, the last 412 bbls made did have choke tubes, and so does my old drilling...   8)

  Drilling Man

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« Reply #9 on: March 12, 2006, 03:51:31 PM »
Here in Texas it is harsh with the dust.  I have gitten rid of my Beretta's and gone with more utilitarian guns.  I understand your point, and agree Valmets are up to the task but at $1,000 plus there are other guns for less that will work.  Hence the ones listed...  :D

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« Reply #10 on: March 12, 2006, 04:50:43 PM »
Hey Doug,

  I've hunted in Texas a bit, that's where i took this javolina.  To be honest, it's easier on a gun than crawling through the alders in Alaska, or putting up with day after day of rain in the costal temporate rain forest while liveing in a small tent.  The second pict. is in that rain forest, but taken on a nice sunny day, and when the suns out there,  i can't think of a place i'd rather be!!

  I think if you look close in both pictures, you will see that i'm carrying my old drilling.

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« Reply #11 on: March 13, 2006, 04:07:23 AM »
Great Pictures...

Where haven't you hunted?  :D

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« Reply #12 on: April 18, 2006, 02:06:49 PM »
Millions of Mexicans get here illegally each year, and an Aussie looks like he belongs here, doesn't speak with a Spanish accent, can read and write English, should be a piece of cake to get to the US.
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Re: I'd move where guns can be readily had.
« Reply #13 on: April 20, 2006, 04:32:27 AM »
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Millions of Mexicans get here illegally each year, and an Aussie looks like he belongs here, doesn't speak with a Spanish accent, can read and write English, should be a piece of cake to get to the US.

Ci, Signor, a dingo took my baby. :)
Seriously though, if Canadians have a hard time getting into the US for good how hard is it for us.
We don't even sound like you, although I have to say that we say "cobber", "crikeys" and "how ya goin" a lot less than Steve Irwin would have you believe! :D
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