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Offline FWiedner

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« on: December 09, 2005, 06:25:15 AM »
Sudafederalized?

Nobody disputes the fact that methamphetamine -- meth, as it is commonly called -- is dangerous in a multiplicity of ways, from the harm it does to an individual's well-being to the damage that trade in the illegal drug does to communities and society. Yet a measure in Congress to fight the meth trade resembles squirrel-hunting with a howitzer.

A Senate bill would require consumers purchasing over-the-counter cold medicines such as Sudafed and NyQuil to show their IDs and sign a document to make their purchase -- because such nostrums contain pseudo- ephedrine, which can be used to make meth. The bill also would limit the amount of cold medicine an individual could buy each month.

Roughly 1.3 million Americans used meth last year. Probably only a few thousand made the stuff. By contrast, how many millions of Americans will catch a cold this year? It's true that when Oklahoma imposed similar restrictions on cold remedies, the number of illegal meth labs in the state plunged. But the logic of federalizing Sudafed control resembles the logic of gun control: Because a tiny fraction of persons misuse a legal product, the implicit reasoning goes, everyone should suffer inconvenience and government monitoring.

In essence, the bill before Congress presumes a buyer of cold medicine is up to no good. If that's the case, then why stop with cold medicine? Why not register the purchase of coffee filters, which can be used in meth production -- or Mason jars, which also can?

There is a better way to fight the alarming spread of meth use. It involves (a) rigorously ferretting out drug dealers and giving them long prison sentences, and (b) getting meth users into a good drug-treatment program to break the cycle of addiction. Neither remedy is as easy as passing sweepingly ill-advised restrictions on Sudafed, Tylenol Cold Medicine, and other common pharmaceuticals. But they would work -- without treating like criminals millions who simply seek relief from the sniffles.

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« Reply #1 on: December 09, 2005, 08:06:34 PM »
At least one Wal-Mart in NoCal makes you sign your name in a spiral notebook, when you pick-up a box of Sudafed (or Wally's generic) at the drug counter.  Nothing else is asked...what a joke!   :?    

At least they didn't ask if I was going to use it in a handgun or rifle!   :lol:

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« Reply #2 on: December 10, 2005, 01:52:16 AM »
Meth is a very big problem around here, and the chief at the local volunteer fire department tells me his firemen encounter a lab several times a month.  The process of extracting and making meth creates some pretty nasty and toxic stuff, and the cost to safely clean the stuff up is high.  Battery acid, and lye are just a few things used.  

The manufacturing process also is a fire hazard and very flamable.  One lab that was busted was in a motel in a densely populated area with 260 guest checked in.  Had the lab exploded it could have been a large disaster with a huge loss of life as a result.  

There are public saftey concerns.
 
I've ran into a few hopefully abandoned labs while hunting, and have also seen parts of a lab illegally dumped on our hunting lease.  
 
I support the idea of limiting the availability of key ingredients.  
 
However, A fellow buying a box of sudafed isn't going to be making meth......now a fellow that buys a case may very well be.  
 
Common sense for me says to set limits on the amount that can be purchased across the counter, and require identification for amounts beyond.  
 
A fellow should be able to buy a couple of boxes hassel free.

Should this be regulated by the federal government?  I think the intent is that most States don't have the money to clean the stuff up and it's draining the state and local governments budget.  Is the federal government going to provide the money to implement and enfore the law?

I think that the power should be with the states.....but when you ask Washington for money this is what you get.
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« Reply #3 on: December 10, 2005, 06:47:14 AM »
I noticed that at our local Cub Foods store they have Sudafed behind the service desk counter with the tobacco products. Haven't bought any Sudafed in years so I don't know what all hoops you have to jump through to buy it.
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« Reply #4 on: December 10, 2005, 08:55:33 PM »
Its my understanding that Sudafed is being phased out and that another concoction will be taking its place within the next year.
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« Reply #5 on: December 11, 2005, 01:24:07 AM »
That's probably the best idea......even if you could only buy a few boxes at a time is guess a fellow could go from store to store and get enough without much trouble.

It amazes me how hard it is to find battery acid.  My boat deep cycle had only been used a couple of times and wouldn't take a charge.  I was going to dump the old acid out and add new before buying a new battery.  Called the auto parts store and the manages tells me he's got to left.  By the time I got there, both were sold........Manager says they can't keep enough in stock.....says he sells out about as fast as he gets it in......Just about all of it is used by meth dealers......
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