Well I most certainly do take offense.I worked for 2 years to get these traps.They are excellent traps for rats and mink.They fit wide muskrat runs perfectly,they also provide a larger kill area for bottom edge sets.
2 of my adc customers have purchased them for rats and mink,and they will do double duty on woodchucks.
Many ,many rat trappers are using 160s and cussing having to screw around with that second spring.
I knew what I was doing,when I had these produced,If I had had these traps 4 weeks ago,I would be out of them now.
No offense foxtail lol---but I do for the most part ,know what I am doing.
Tom