Author Topic: when and why 1895 ?? guide gun (Read 1644 times)

JEFF WARD2 · « **on:** December 24, 2005, 06:25:56 PM »

when did they stop porting the guide gun, and why ?
i am going to buy a new one in 45-70 and noticed they dont offer the ported barrel anymore, but have seen it on older ones..

oso45-70 · « **Reply #1 on:** December 24, 2005, 09:28:24 PM »

Jeff

I think you can still get the blued guide gun in ported or plain. I have the blued with ported barrel and one in Stainless non ported. The only reason i bought the ported barreled guide gun is I got a good deal on it. If you are looking for one just keep your eyes open and you might find one on the net, or at a gun show thats where i picked mine up. Good luck ..........Joe.......

JEFF WARD2 · « **Reply #2 on:** December 25, 2005, 02:23:41 AM »

thanks for the info..
i have seen them on the net, but when i asked my gun dealer about the new ones he said they dont offer it anymore., he has to order the gun so i am sure he isnt trying to push one off the shelf..
also do you notice any difference in the port as to the non ported ?
i have found a like new one with port for 100.00 cheaper,
if anyone can tell me before i lose the used deal it would much appreceated..
i know i can get the regular 1895 with ported barrel but im set for the guide gun..
thanks in advance..jeff..

Cottonwood · « **Reply #3 on:** December 25, 2005, 02:59:53 AM »

Here is one at Guns America for $449.00

1895G with porting Awesome! Nice Marlin 1895G lever action, 45-70, ported, 18", cross bolt safety, Williams peep sight, NO ORIGINAL SIGHTS, box, 99%, been shot 20 rounds, ser#00039639, no other pictures, serious only please, I only accept certified funds such as money order or cashiers checks, add 3% for credit card, $25.00 shipping.

Then of course you could just buy a NIB one from Wal-Mart
Marlin 1895G Big Bore Lever Action Rifle 45-70 then send it in to Marlin direct and have them for a small fee swap the barrel out for a ported one that is offered on the .450 Marlins which are the same .458 dia.

Personally I wouldn't own a ported one or shoot around anyone who was shooting one... I like what hearing I have left. Many who have purchased ported ones have either sent them in for a straight barrel or just sold them off... as reported, they are just plainly too loud.

oso45-70 · « **Reply #4 on:** December 25, 2005, 06:52:31 AM »

Jeff Ward

The Montanan is sure right about the ported 95s being to loud, I haven't made up my mind what i am going to do with mine, Like i said in my first post i picked mine up for a song. In the mean time i shoot my Stainless 95 All the time and am enjoying it . Back to the topic of porting a 1895 45-70 you might want to think about it because most people don't like the the extra noise and i can't see where it helps that much as far as recoil goes. Good luck Jeff..............Joe.............

JEFF WARD2 · « **Reply #5 on:** December 25, 2005, 06:45:21 PM »

thanks for the info. i saw the one on guns america that you posted.
i never could get use to the peep sight though.
and i cant hear worth a darn anymore anyway..lol..lol.
so the ported ones are that much louder,could be just what im looking for it might help block out the wifes nagging .. :wink:
does anyone know what year they stopped porting the guide gun ?
and im wanting to make sure that i get the ballard rifleing, can anyone tell me how to tell the difference ?
as you all can tell im new to the lever gun stuff and have a lot to learn..

thanks for all your help...jeff..

JEFF WARD2 · « **Reply #6 on:** December 26, 2005, 06:10:42 PM »

well i got my guide gun today a sweet used one with the ported barrel this gun is in 99.9% there isnt a mark on it anywhere !! the guy i bought it from had shot it 5 times, this gun is like brand new and i feel like i stole it from the guy,
well as soon as i got it home i had to see and hear what the ported barrel had to say.. i didnt think it was loud at all,no louder than any of my other rifles... i only shot it 4 times at 50 yards and my shots keyholed an inch high over the bull.... with 300 gr. remingtons... man i cant wait to play with this thing some more!!!!!!!!!

hogship · « **Reply #7 on:** December 26, 2005, 07:00:29 PM »

It's been a year now since I purchased my 1895GS. I can remember hearing stories about noise with the ported versions, so I specifically wanted an unported version. However, if I'm remembering correctly, it was a problem with noise for other people at the range, not the shooter himself.

hog

JEFF WARD2 · « **Reply #8 on:** December 27, 2005, 04:40:17 AM »

I QUESS ITS A GOOD THING I HAVE MY OWN RANGE..LOL.
BUT MY SON AND FATHER IN LAW WAS THERE WITH ME AND THEY DIDNT THINK IT WAS AS LOUD AS MY 7MM.REM MAG.

THIS IS ONE SWEET LITTLE GUN..I DONT USUALY GIVE A GUN A NAME.. BUT THIS ONE GETS ONE...I AM NAMEING IT AFTER MY GRANDMOTHER THAT JUST PAST AWAY IN NOV. JEWELL ANN.. AKA..(GRANNY)..

JEFF WARD2 · « **Reply #9 on:** December 27, 2005, 04:43:56 AM »

sorry i didnt know my caps lock was on i didnt meen to yell >>>>

CEJ1895 · « **Reply #10 on:** December 28, 2005, 04:59:43 AM »

JEFF WARD2 - I've got the same rifle and I don't find it any louder than my brother-in-law's 1895 with the 22" barrel and the ports do help with the muzzle lift. Let's face it, ANY 45-70 is gonna be loud! :-D CEJ...

JEFF WARD2 · « **Reply #11 on:** December 28, 2005, 06:53:52 PM »

what ammo are you using and what kind of groups are you getting ,i could only get the remington 300 gr.sjhp. i dont reload yet and just trying to get some info. from others
thanks..jeff..

CEJ1895 · « **Reply #12 on:** December 29, 2005, 02:18:34 AM »

Hi Jeff - I roll my own now but I have used Federal 300 grainers for sighting in my AO peep sights with good results. My handloads will shoot 3 shot cloverleafs at 100 yards with the Leupold scout scope set up. You'll just need to pick up some different brands and see what your rifle likes best. A number of people like the PMC 350 grain factory loads. Good luck.. CEJ

JEFF WARD2 · « **Reply #13 on:** December 29, 2005, 03:21:52 AM »

thanks for the info. cej1895, i have heard alot of good on the pmc's i am going to pick up a box when i have the chance.
i plan on getting into reloading one day, its a wonder why i havent already, but so far i know nothing about it.. but its time for a new hobby !!!

Coyote Hunter · « **Reply #14 on:** January 01, 2006, 12:21:32 PM »

There were two problems that arose with the ported barrels.

The first was noise. A nuisance and injurious to your hearing and that of those around you. The noise does seem to be worse for bystanders off to the side than for people directly behind the rifle, including the shooter.

The second was that the ports caused ejecta to hit other shooters on the firing line. I've been hit repeatedly in the back of the neck by a Marlin shooter 2 benches away. I don't know what hit me, unburnt powder of scrapings off the bullet, but I am very glad I was wearing protective glasses and had my back turned. After the third time I had to ask the shooter to stop. Others at my club had the same problem.

At my range they now have a rule that shooters using ported firearms must notify everyone else on the firing line before shooting. If anyone objects the ported firearm cannot be shot. That's how seriously the club takes the noise and ejecta issues. Safety first.

If you plan to do much shooting at a range you might want to check into their rules.

K.K. · « **Reply #15 on:** January 01, 2006, 03:24:41 PM »

I got hit with shrapnel from the ports as well from another shooter during a hunt. He shot safely, but the shards of jacket (I think) gashed me below the eye. I was lucky. Something to keep in mind and always wear eye protection!

jeff ward3 · « **Reply #16 on:** January 01, 2006, 07:55:14 PM »

THANKS FOR ALL THE INFO.
i will keep this in mind when others are around me..
i have my own shooting range at my house and thats where i do most all of my shooting, so i wont be endangering anyone at local ranges...
can anyone still tell me when they ported the gun and when they stoped..
this is a used gun and would like to get an idea of how old it is..
ive been trying to reach the marlin co. but havent been able to get through to them , might be the holidays.. thanks again for all your help...jeff..

Coyote Hunter · « **Reply #17 on:** January 02, 2006, 11:59:21 AM »

I think Marlin stopped porting the barrels in January of 2002. You can determine the year of manufacture by taiking the first two digits of the serial number, subtract them from 100 and add 1900 or 2000 as appropriate.

JEFF WARD2 · « **Reply #18 on:** January 02, 2006, 05:45:06 PM »

thanks coyote hunter,

Dana C · « **Reply #19 on:** January 06, 2006, 07:01:16 PM »

I had a GG with ports and sold it. I shot well but was brutal with its report. I bought a 1895 Cowboy which will shoot the same hot rounds if you want to and has the advantage, at least for me, of having a 24" barrel and the longer sight radius that goes with it. I find it much more pleasant to shoot with either period correct, low pressure rounds and Buffalo Bore cannon rounds.