Need help...please.

[Zod]

Hi everyone,
I just found this site tonight and so I am hoping some one can help me with some info.

I have 16x16x8x57JR or JRS? I am not sure what it really is tho. I have 4 shells for it, but the shells are 303 British. My grandfather many years ago said they would work, he took a file and filed the head of the case so as to make them fit when the action closed.

Now I know these are not the right shells and I wish to have the right ones. The only info that I have ever been able to obtain about the drilling was from a correspondence from Germany many years ago, in which the man stated it to be a 8x57jrs. On the barrel is says 7.7mm

What would be the proper shells for this....JR or JRS.

Thanks,
Zod

[dougk]

Zod
do you have pictures of the marks on the barrels?  Drillingman has extensive knowledge with the cartridges your speaking.  Also who made the drilling gun you have.
Doug

[Zod]

As far as marks go, I will have to get some pictures today, I have been going to do that for quite awhile now.
Also of who made it is still a mystery-WH Kerner I believe is the name on the barrel. But I surely will get some pictures and I can also post a copy of the letter that was sent to me by the gentlemen in Germany many years ago.

I would surely like to put this drilling to rest. Also what the rifle barrel cal. is.

My father brought this drilling over from Germany durning the 2nd war and he passed away when I was only 12, so I have never gotten any info on it.

Thanks dougk,
Larry

[Zod]

These really aren't very good pictures, just couldn't seem to get the digital to focus up close very well.

[Zod]

This is the letter I received several years  back, it sounds like the gentlemen that search it for me new what he was talking about. So after I reread the letter, I see he states that it is a JR, so I guess I will look for ammo.

[dougk]

Zod
another option is to take it to a gun smith and have them check out the gun as well as validate the correct rifle round.  There are places to buy the 16 ga 2.5 inch shells.  PM me if you need a website.
Doug

[Zod]

Doug,
The bores have been lengthen to take the 2 3/4" shells, this was done many years ago. I shot my first Canadian Hookers with it back in the 60's using the 2 3/4", plus a couple dozen ducks and it has never been fired since.

One other thing, the recoil pad is as hard as a rock, can't even compress it using a pair of pliers. The local gunsmith said he thinks it's a aftermarket pad.

Thanks

[Drilling Man]

  First thing i'd do is have the chamber cerosafed. (i think that's how it's spelled?)  Anyway, it's a metal that doesn't shrink and melts at a low temp.   A gunsmith can easily do this for you...

  This will give you the exact measurments of the chamber and couple inches of the bbl., so you can see "exactly" what you have... 

  It could be .318" bore or .323" and you need to find this out.  Once you know what you have, it will be easy to get ammo for it...  To me it seems this is a 8x57 rimmed with .318" bore, but the cerosafe will tell for sure....

  DM