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Offline markc

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« on: April 24, 2003, 07:49:19 AM »
Anyone seen any of these?   Silk, or Sika Grande?   Seems that they are a cross between a Sika and an Elk, developed for venison production,  but would make a heck of a trophy I bet.  Males up to 400# and females up to 300#.
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« Reply #1 on: April 25, 2003, 02:31:08 AM »
Mark,

I know several ranches that have either silks or relks. The sika/elk and red deer/elk crosses. One is within 125 miles of Tomball. But none of the serious hunters I know hunt them because none of the ethical record scoring systems recognize them. Just as they are not reconizing the new gemsbock/scimitar horned oryx crosses that have been bred the last few years.
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Hey Denvas
« Reply #2 on: April 25, 2003, 02:39:04 AM »
how was the last youth hunt?   Now where is the place within 125 miiles of Tomball, and you got any idea what they would charge for a hunt for one of those large crosses?    Hope to take my wife after some axis does in a few weeks.  Howie knows a place in E. Tx that sounds affordable enough.
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« Reply #3 on: April 25, 2003, 04:35:09 AM »
Hi Mark,

The ranch is over between Cat Spring and Bellville. I called Dr. Jensen and he does not have any for sale right now. However, he might have some shooters this fall. He will have to wait until he can get an idea of what the horns are going to look like.

Please check out my ad in the classified section. A group of us are getting together to help out a fellow shooter and scout leader. His son was recently diagnosed with a debilitating muscular disease and they have very little money for the medical bills. We have banded together to help raise some money by selling our excess muzzleloaders, knives, scopes, etc. Any help sent in that direction would be appreciated.

Take care.
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« Reply #4 on: May 19, 2003, 06:46:20 AM »
That sounds like a Dybowski sika.  They have these in Russia and on several Texas ranches; they are quite handsome beasts.

I know that sika will inter-breed with elk and red deer.

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« Reply #5 on: May 21, 2003, 02:49:59 AM »
I talked to the folks at the Exotic Wildlife Association and the informed me that the  Dybowski sika are one of the 3 recognized sub-species of sika. These are the, smallest to largest, Japanese, Manchurian/Formosan and Dybowski. The Sika Grande or Silk is a hybrid animal and is a mix based upon breeding a sika to an elk. This Silk is not always easy to distinguish from a true sika unless you are an animal biologist or do the necessary blood testing. However, the EWA did indicate that Silks are not recognized for their record book as did SCI. Charley Seals, the EWA executive director, said that to a trained animal breeder or trophy scorer there are several things that would make one question whether any given animal was a true sika or a hybrid. If someone tries to enter an animal into their record book and there is any doubt then they insist that the necessary testing be done to insure the validity of the entry.
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Hey Denvas
« Reply #6 on: May 21, 2003, 07:00:00 AM »
I looked through the classified section and did not locate that thread.  What title is it under?   I will see if I have some things to contribute.
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« Reply #7 on: May 21, 2003, 09:38:07 AM »
Mark,

It is already way back on page 5 but hee is the original posting;

A fellow shooter and hunter has a child that has had and will be having some unexpected and sudden medical costs that are beyond the means of the family involved. In an attempt to help them out several of us from our shooting club are banding together to sell off our excess muzzleloaders, scopes, knives, etc., in an effort to raise money for these medical expenses. Please take a look at what we have listed below to see if there is anything that might interest you. If so please fell free to contact us with a counter offer and we will consider it. Just keep in mind that our intent is to raise as much money as we can to help this family out in their time of need.

Muzzleloaders:

Brand Model Caliber Asking Price

Austin & Halleck 320 L/R SN Rifle 50 $260.00
Austin & Halleck 320 L/R SN 50 $260.00
Austin & Halleck 420 LR Classic Hand Select 50 $305.00
CVA Accubolt Rifle 50 $125.00
CVA Firebolt rifle 50 $200.00
Goinc Arms GA-87 Rifle 45 $330.00
Gonic Arms GA-93 Rifle 50 $330.00
Kahnke Model 94 Rifle 50 $330.00
MSM Buckwacka Rifle 50 $160.00
Pedersoli/Dicie inline bolt action rifle 54 $210.00
Pedersoli/Dixie Supercub flintlock rifle 50 $300.00
Traditions Lightening Bolt Action Rifle 50 $140.00
Traditions Kentucky Percussion Rifle 50 $200.00
White G Series Whitetail 45 $320.00
White G Series Whitetail 45 $320.00
White G Series Whitetail Rifle 45 $320.00
White G Series Javelina Pistol 50 $225.00

(The following rifles were donated by a local Boy Scout Unit from their
shooting program. All in fairly good shape. There was some minor
rusting on some that has been removed.)

Traditions Deer Hunter Scout Rifle 50 $80.00
Traditions Deer Hunter Scout Rifle 50 $80.00
Traditions Deer Hunter Scout Rifle 50 $80.00
Traditions Deer Hunter Scout Rifle 50 $80.00
Traditions Panther Carbine R35808 50 $65.00
Traditions Panther Carbine R35808 50 $65.00
Traditions Panther Carbine R35808 50 $65.00
Traditions Panther Carbine R35808 50 $65.00
Traditions Panther Carbine R35808 50 $65.00


Knives
Company Model Blade Metal Asking Price

Anza Razor Type Blade 3” carbon steel $32.00
Anza 3-3 double edged boot style 7” carbon steel $65.00
Coast Cutlery Crocodile Hunter 10.25” Solingen $45.00
Coast Cutlery Bowie Style 8” Solingen $25.00
Coast Cutlery Original Bowie Knife 8” Solingen $25.00
Coast Cutlery Original Bowie Knife 7” Solingen $20.00
Gerber 46044 Sports Saw 5.25” carbon steel $15.00
Katz Avenger Boot Knife -BT-10/S 4.5” Stainless Steel $75.00
Katz Black Kat BK-302 6” XT80 Stainless $80.00
Katz Avenger Boot Knife -BT-10 4.5” XT70 Stainless $75.00
Pelican KC5 "New Orleans" Bowie 6.25” Stainless Steel $45.00
Puma 11 6396 Bowie 6.5” carbon steel $55.00
United UC-467 Horsehead 18th Century Style Dirk 6.25” Stainless $25.00
United UC-710 Liberty & Union 18 Centry Style Dirk 6.25” Stainless $25.00
United UC-526 Bowie Style Folding Knife 4.25” Stainless Steel $15.00

Riflescopes
Company Model Power Reticle Asking Price

Burris Fullfield 2.5 Plex $85.00
Burris Fullfield 2.5 Plex $85.00
Burris Fullfield 2.5 Plex $85.00
Burris Fullfield 2.5 Plex $85.00

Shotgun Chokes
2 set of Remington 12 gauge Imp. Cyl, Mod and Full $20.00 per choke or $55.00 per set

All prices will be plus the cost of freight to get the item to the buyer. Payment will be in cashiers check or money order. Personal checks will be accepted but item will not be shipped for 7 days in order to be insure the check clears the bank. We will continue to up date this list as new things come in. If you are interested in any of these items and what we are asking for them then please email us at denvas@sbcglobal.net. We would like to sell them as quick as we can in order to help this fellow shooter and his family out but as the doctors have indicated that this will be a long drawn out process their need will not be over anytime soon. Thanks.
Denvas
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« Reply #8 on: May 21, 2003, 01:31:16 PM »
Denny, if it is on page 5 it will disappear soon. All ads move downward if no new posts are made to keep them up at the top. After 28 days they are deleted if no posts are made. All you have to do is made a reply to it to bring it back to top for all to see. Just mark the reply BTT for back to top and all will understand.

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« Reply #9 on: May 23, 2003, 04:21:01 AM »
that you explained BTT.  LOL  I just never could figure out what that meant.   LOL
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