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Offline Outdoorsman Kyle

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« on: December 16, 2005, 01:26:06 PM »
What's yall's opinion on 100 grains of powder and 150 grains?
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« Reply #1 on: December 16, 2005, 05:50:17 PM »
kyle In my experiences I have learned that some combinations of guns and bullets shoot well for me with 100 grains of loose powder or pellets and some combinations of guns and bullets shoot well for me with 150  grains of pellets.

A lot of variables go in to that question.  A very important question to ask yourself is what is your intended purpose for the rifle and load that you are working up a load up for.  What are your exectations for your load? Are you planning to set up an ambush at 40 yards in a oak grove? Are you going to be long range shooting on a powerline?  Could you possibly set up a rifle to use in both of these situations? Sure you can if that is what you are looking for.

I would recommend you try various loads out for yourself with your own gun and bullet selections then make a decision based on your own experiences.

I have had good luck in the past with both 100 grain loads of loose and pellets and equally good luck with 150 grains of pellets over the years.

I had to take the time to find out what works best for me, there is no shortcut that I know of.

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« Reply #2 on: December 16, 2005, 05:52:25 PM »
I use 90 gr. of loose triple7 in my Encore 50 cal. I get complete pass through on deer. Even on shoulder shots. Now if I was going on an Elk hunt I may go up a little, but in my opinion it is not needed. I get better accuracy with the lighter loads. I have not had very good luck with the 120 to 150 gr. loads.  :D
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« Reply #3 on: January 02, 2006, 03:13:55 PM »
I couldn't get 150 grains of 777 to shoot the hornady spire points at all. When I dropped to 100 grains, the shots all touched at 100 yards.  I agree with Redhawk 1, 100 grains is plenty for deer, and you coul always experiment with loads in the off-season.  (I simply didn't have the time, so I stayed with 100 grains).
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« Reply #4 on: January 03, 2006, 10:48:25 AM »
My experience with this is, after 100 gr of anything, speed and accuracy just isn`t all that great, and fowling really increases. Jack.
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« Reply #5 on: February 02, 2006, 02:59:43 PM »
Slayer's right about the fouling...And recoil, I split my nose with a scoped Black Diamond a few years ago.  Thing is, I was loaded with 150 grains of pyrodex and shot that doe at 20 yards!
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« Reply #6 on: February 02, 2006, 03:12:33 PM »
Remember the 45/70??? That's basically what you are shooting...My current load for my inline is 90grs Pyrodex and a 250 T/C Shockwave...
I have killed 7 deer with...out to 143 yards...In fact I'm sighted in at 150 yards...Don't see a need for anymore than this on deer...
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« Reply #7 on: February 02, 2006, 03:26:50 PM »
I use 90 grains of 777 behind a Buffalo Company 375 grain ssb. I get good grouping at 100 yards and I make big holes through deer. What more do you want?
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« Reply #8 on: February 02, 2006, 04:30:28 PM »
The question of 100 vs. 150 grains is like asking if you prefer getting slapped in the face with a dead fish as opposed to getting whacked by a two-by-four.

It's not a matter of what you like -- it's all about what your gun likes.

Work up your loads gradually and eliminate as many variables as possible along the way. Don't arbitrarily mix charge, bullet and primer combos. Follow a strict regimen of altering a variable -- like powder charge -- and see what happens. Adjust and try something else until you're happy with the results. Yes, this takes time and perseverance, but there's no substitute for knowledge and experience with a gun.

(Captain Obvious strikes again! :blaster: )
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« Reply #9 on: February 02, 2006, 05:58:39 PM »
I have never found any combination of powder, sabot and bullet that would group good once I have exceded 125gr of powder. Shot placement is first. I do not care how fast my bullet was moving as it missed. My only concern is that it is moving fast enough to get the job done once it hits the intended target.
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« Reply #10 on: February 03, 2006, 03:08:24 AM »
I personally shoot the charge that is most accurate out of my M/L.  I have found that I do not get any difference in accuracy when using 100gr of 777 pellets or 130gr of  777 pellets with 250 gr SSTs.  The recoil difference in my gun is minimal so that is also not a factor.  Do I need 130gr to shoot deer?  No, 100 gr will do the job just fine.  I do hunt in mixed areas where distances can be between 5 yards to 200 yards.  So having the 130 gr gives my 250gr SST a little flatter  trajectory and umphh if I have to reach out and touch the deer.  will it make that much difference under 200 yards?  I don't know but there is something to be said for having confdence in the gun you are shooting.  Like I said above the two charges did not have any difference in accuarcy both shot 1 1/2 inch 3shot groups at 100 yards off a solid rest (Bench).  I did not have the same luck with Powerbelts and found that 100 gr of 777 pellets was the most accurate out of my M/L.

Feed your gun what it likes.  100 gr will kill deer just as dead as 150 gr inside 150 yards and probably 200 if you know how to shoot your gun!

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« Reply #11 on: February 03, 2006, 03:12:24 AM »
I personally shoot the charge that is most accurate out of my M/L.  I have found that I do not get any difference in accuracy when using 100gr of 777 pellets or 130gr of  777 pellets with 250 gr SSTs.  The recoil difference in my gun is minimal so that is also not a factor.  Do I need 130gr to shoot deer?  No, 100 gr will do the job just fine.  I do hunt in mixed areas where distances can be between 5 yards to 200 yards.  So having the 130 gr gives my 250gr SST a little flatter  trajectory and umphh if I have to reach out and touch the deer.  will it make that much difference under 200 yards?  I don't know but there is something to be said for having confdence in the gun you are shooting.  Like I said above the two charges did not have any difference in accuarcy both shot 1 1/2 inch 3shot groups at 100 yards off a solid rest (Bench).  I did not have the same luck with Powerbelts and found that 100 gr of 777 pellets was the most accurate out of my M/L.

Feed your gun what it likes.  100 gr will kill deer just as dead as 150 gr inside 150 yards and probably 200 if you know how to shoot your gun!

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« Reply #12 on: February 03, 2006, 03:56:26 AM »
I shoot 120 grains of AP FFG, very clean and very accurate in my Omega Z5 and Encore. Use 3 777 pellets as my reload in the field, shoots to the s
ame point of aim, but dirtier than  AP. Everyone runs down Powerbelts, but they shoot well in my rifles, and usally find the 348 well expanded and just under the skin on the far side, instant kills.
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« Reply #13 on: February 03, 2006, 04:21:20 PM »
PRACTICE.....PRACTICE.....PRACTICE.     :grin:

"confdence in the gun you are shooting"  :grin:   :grin:   :grin:  

Shot placement   :D    :D       :D       :D
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