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Offline STW

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What's wrong with the buckrhorn rear site on mod 94s?
« on: January 30, 2006, 05:14:20 PM »
I've been shooting my pre-64 mod94 30-30 with the standard buckhorn rear site but I've assumed--from what I've read here--that in order to do any serious shooting with it, or hunting, I'll need to install a receiver site like a Lyman.

But why? I don't have any experience with receiver sites so I don't know what the advantage is. I like the way this mod94 shoots with the buckhorn and it surprises me how accurate it is. Do you see the advantage of the receiver site for shooting out past the middle distances (out to 100 yards and more)? Is it because the receiver site lengthens the site distance? Because a receiver site is more adjustable? Is it just preference for he circular peep aperture?

And while I'm asking about the receiver site, so I need to drill or modify the receiver to install it or does it use the existing holes?

Thanks,
Mitch

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« Reply #1 on: January 31, 2006, 04:07:57 AM »
If your fine with the buck Horn site then by all means use it .

Why fix something that is not broke?

The reciever site allows us older eyes to focus on the front site alone and the game in question, instead of trying to line up two sites and the target.
So our eyes automaticly centre's the front site in the rear and all we need to do is place the bead on the target were we want the bullet to hit and fire . Another method is just to place the front post on target and the bullet set to hit just on top of the post.

Your rifle should be drilled on the side of the reciever to accept the willaims side mounted model. You would also be required to replace the front site , I think, to the medium height front site.

Best to order both at the same time for your rifle.

Now you can also go one step further and get the ghost ring set up which is basicly the same set up as a peep but much larger . Folks will use this set up alone or with a forward mounted  pistol scope.
You would then be able to use the scope with both eyes open for that snap shot , or quicky tip off the scope in bad weather and just use the ghost ring site.
Winchester has the timber scout model 94 set up this way in 30/30 and 44 Mag.

I was thinking of going to this route, since I now use peeps, have less then perfect vision , and am having problems finding running fgame in a low powered scope. Shooting with both eyes open ther would be less chance losing sight of the target.

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If your eyes are fine and you can hit what you want with the factory sites, why changeto something to will need to adjust to?
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« Reply #2 on: January 31, 2006, 04:55:16 AM »
Like you stated: its more easily adjusted, a longer sight distance, it doesn't cover up your target like the buckhorn does, it is easier to see in different lighting conditions, aperatures can be changed from target to a more open hunting, they are faster to acquire, and I think they are reasonably priced.
I have the Williams.

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« Reply #3 on: January 31, 2006, 11:26:37 AM »
STW:  a pre-64 94 is a pretty little rifle and I would hate to mar the action to mount something possibly more effective for you than you already are with your buckhorn sight.  Yes, a rear apeture sight (peep) and a blade front sight (or if better for you a bead) may help you shoot more accurately at longer distances, but maybe not.  It is true that they obscure less of the game you are trying to target and that is very helpful, especially in thick woods.

A good tang mount may help you decide for yourself without dealing with drilling and tapping the action.  You will need a taller front sight and Brownells has many options available - same with the tang sights.  

I have a lyman #2 tang sight mounted on a custom barrelled 94 AE in 444 and also have a standard length rifle with factory sights - both seem to shoot equally well for me.  There is a smaller target peep available for most of these tang sights to allow for target work.  A tang sight can be installed and removed without altering the action.   It gives you the longer eye relief helpful with longer range shooting.  

Some feel a tang sight interferes with the grip of the rifle - I don't feel so but this is an individual 'thing'.  HTH.  Mikey.