I was wondering has anyone got any information on these two rifles. I am going to be moving into one or the other in a NEF Handi Rifle Carbine. I hunted this whole season with a Savage .308 with accutrigger and bullbarrell (that I am now selling) but i dont like how heavy it is. I toted my buddies 45-70 handi rifle and fell in love. In Mississippi this year the put into law that the NEF's handi rifle is a primative weapon and can be used if the projectile was over a .38 cal. I have done some reading on these two and would like to know more. Do many of you have 500 S&Ws? I am not too worried on cost as far as buying bullets because the hand loading Ill be doing is handing the money to a clerk and loading the bullets into my gun. Any information you guys have will be appreciated on the subject matter.