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« on: February 06, 2006, 05:23:38 AM »
would it help to glass bed my ruger it is floated all the way down except for about two inches of the barrel then it never shoots in the same area twice what is the problem with my ruger, I have shot three different loads the best i can get out of it is an 1 1/2 groups it will do better than that. help appreciated what do you think let me know
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« Reply #1 on: February 06, 2006, 11:25:12 AM »
Your going to have to tell us a bit more. Like--heavy barrel/sporter, wood stock/sybthetic, old/new.. How long have you had the rifle. Did i used to shoot better? Is the crown ok no damage? Scope mounts tight and is the telescope proven i.e. has it been on a rifle that performed well? How much magnification on the scope. Have you shot better groups than 1 1/2 inches before.  There are many possibilities... In my experience the M77's are some of the more difficult to bed properly and many of them benefit from a glass bedding job, done properly.. Also as I've said before, all rifles don't shoot best with floated barrels..
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« Reply #2 on: February 07, 2006, 05:07:29 AM »
It is the heavy barrel wood stock, I was looking at the inside of the stock is is glass bedded, I went out and shot this morning and I beginning to think it is my scope because two are in one spot and one is 5 inches high, but the scope changes point of impact every time I group it. help appreciated
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« Reply #3 on: February 08, 2006, 02:13:53 PM »
In the original M77 the heavy barreled swift's seemed charmed. All shot well and some were absolutley scarey.. If it's shoting that far apart and shanges between sessions and the scope hasn't loosened, the scope is likely bad. If iy shoots 2 groups, it likely got bedding problems or problems in the erector tube,,scope problems again.. Try it with a scope that is knon to be OK,,  and check to be sure all is tight..
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« Reply #4 on: February 09, 2006, 06:05:59 AM »
I put an older tasco on it and it is shooting aroun 1 inch groups with 55 boat tail hollowpoints, would you recommend a load thanks for the help.
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« Reply #5 on: February 09, 2006, 11:17:54 AM »
Don't have my load book here but try starting loads for that 55 grain bullet and 4064 or 4320.  Don't push too hard and the rifle will reward you with small groups.. and still produce amazing ballistics..
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« Reply #6 on: February 09, 2006, 12:12:33 PM »
I seated my bullets not as deep and my groups are down to half an inch groups but what do I now shoot it single shot this is the most trouble I have ever had out of a rifle it is the only ruger high powered rifle i have owned< thanks for the info
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« Reply #7 on: February 09, 2006, 07:11:18 PM »
Sounds like you've a long throat. Try switching to flat based bullets.  They can be seated a bit farther out than a boattail. You might try seating bullets to just run thru the magazione..
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« Reply #8 on: February 10, 2006, 03:10:00 AM »
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...this is the most trouble I have ever had out of a rifle it is the only ruger high powered rifle i have owned...
Actually, the trouble you mentioned had nothing to do with the rifle, just the scope.  That would have occured with any rifle.  Getting 1/2 moa groups out of a factory rifle is pretty darned good with today's rifles - Ruger's acceptable limit for that rifle is only ~2 moa.  A long throat is common in many brands and is usually "fixed" by using the right bullet for the barrel.  You may want to try bullets of a different weight as well.  Some rifles shoot very well with quite a jump to the lands, you just have to shoot it to find out.

Just a question: how many groups have you fired with the rifle after you changed the scope?  How many shots per group?  What was the average group size of those groups?  Thanks.