Where to buy full scale 24 pound coehorn mortar barrel?

[entsminger]

My son of 14 was thinking of getting a Hern 24 pound iron coehorn mortar barrel till we learned theirs is not to full scale. It's slightly smaller than origional. Can anyone recomend a place to get one that has a steel liner and is to full scale and at a price similar to Herns? Their barrel is around $200.

  Scott and Dakota

[GGaskill]

It is impractical to apply a liner to a Coehorn bore due to its shape and thin walls (if you are looking for a full bore version.)  You are better off to get an all-steel machined one.  Materials only cost will be on the order of $300 minimum.

[Tropico]

Personally I think its really hard to beat the Hern Mortar in size for that kind of money.

as a side note I have 2 of their cannons and am ., Very Happy with them. My experience is a Hern Cannon will treat you well.

You maybe wanting a full scale for authenticity purposes or for a scale competition so Herns wont work in your case ., I dont know but for a really strong mortar that will liven things up they offer alot for a little.

 In all of my searching I have never seen more mortar for even twice that amount.,and I would have to consider that a good deal as well.   Buy the Mortar and your sons grandchildren  will
thank him for it.

[Kuntrykouple]

Hern barrels are good barrels BUT if im not mistaken last time i talked to joel the bore is only 2 1/4"

[Tropico]

Mine are 2 1/4 " bores., I dont have the mortar. I have the 2/3 scale ordinance barrels. but I must say thier value ( Quality versus dollar ) is worth it and you have thick walls in the breech. (Where it counts).

[Kuntrykouple]

Quality versus dollar ) is worth it and you have thick walls in the breech. (Where it counts).

I agree i am  getting ready to order the 20lb parrot in the next 2 weeks and let me tell ya  that is alot of barrel!

[gary michie]

HI:
Liveing just north of spokane I have been to the hern iron works and seen the tubes IT IS FUN. The people are a littie woodsy and the salt of the earth. You get them talking about shooting bowling balls and its a 4 hour conflab. They pore in a old barn looking building with missing parts of walls but as they say; we are working with hot metal here how worrys about heet.
gary

[threepdr]

The original tubes were bronze with a bore size of almost 6 inches.  They were not lined.  Even the cheapest authentic 24pdr coehorns willl run almost $3,000.  

Wild Imports does have a 12pdr bronze coehorn that is sorta-kinda like an origianl.  It sells for $950.  Ignore their title of"1798 British Mortar".  It si nothing like the original mortars the Brits were using during that time frame.

http://www.wildimports.com/new_page_18.htm

[Double D]

My son of 14 was thinking of getting a Hern 24 pound iron coehorn mortar barrel till we learned theirs is not to full scale. It's slightly smaller than origional. Can anyone recomend a place to get one that has a steel liner and is to full scale and at a price similar to Herns? Their barrel is around $200.

  Scott and Dakota

Scott,

Just south of you in  Norfolk is theWest Bros. They make  Mortars. I have the email address and phone number packed in my storage good that I won't see them for 2 to 5 years..

Anyone else have the West  Bros contact info?

Also If you go to the Spring N-SSA shot at Ft.  Shenanadoah, I think in May, go to sutlers row and look for the fellow with the canvas tent right by the exit down by the creek.  He almost always has a mortar for sale.

[guardsgunner]

I think that are the West's tube that he has there. Last I knew it was balls and all for a $1000.00.Price has jumped a bit in the last year, So...

[Double D]

Does any one know if Hern liners are seamless?

Do Hern tubes meet AAA rules?

I know because of the bore sizes they don't meet N-SSA rules.

Something in the back of my mind says that there are Issues between N-SSA and Hern and it doesn't have to do with bore size.  anyone know?

[entsminger]

Yes I too would like to know if there are any issues the N-SSA has with Hern mortar barrels? What 's the point in getting a barrel if it can't be shot at N-SSA events? My son is looking at Herns coehorn and we both are looking at their 8 inch siege mortar. As far as I know only Hern and Paulson Brothers make replica 8 or 10 inch siege mortars. If anyone knows of any problems with either of these makers mortar cannons please let me know.

  Scott

[CU_Cannon]

As far as I can tell from the AAA rules Hern barrels are ok to shoot in competition.  They are more concerned with the safety of what you shoot than authenticity.  DonÂ’t quote me on this though.  I hope to get to at least one of the AAA shoots this summer.

[guardsgunner]

As far as I know the only issue between the NSSA and Herns is that their guns do not meet spec. There are still some of Herns cannon barrels
being shot in the regular matches. These barrels were already shooting before the rules were changed to allow only Full scale artillery. As long as they have their inspection's and do not lapse they may continue to shoot. I think the rules changed around 1980.
  I do not recall exactly when mortar shooting was introduced but I think it was around 1992. Mortar matchs have always required full scale piece's.
   Herns does not offer a full scale one in coehorn. I do not know if anyone has brought a Herns 8" down to VA. for inspection or the resluts if they have.
   Others here may have that answer.

[Tropico]

Yes I too would like to know if there are any issues the N-SSA has with Hern mortar barrels? What 's the point in getting a barrel if it can't be shot at N-SSA events?

The  answer to this  question is  a simple one.  Many people do not shoot at NSSA events.

Personally I have never been to an NSSA event., let alone shot at one. And I am sure never will.  I do however have 6 cannons and will be having 4 more soon., from someone on this board., for a grand total of 10 Cannons. None of which have been NSSA inspected or ever will be. My cannons are something I have built for my needs to my specs.
It just really dependson what YOU want to do  with this Mortar, If its NSSA then you'll have to follow thier rules.

The real answer is :

Owning a cannon and shooting it .,displaying them., and instaling them on your ship is simply "Pure Pleasure".  

[gary michie]

HI
 Here in the north west Hern is not allowed  in the artillery of WCWA the reason is that the seamless 3/8" wall tube is poured in placed not a bore job and pressed in place and they want 1/2" with the breech threaded in at least the bore size and welded by a certifed welder . There liner is cap with a 3/8" cut to o.d. of the tube and welded. and then there is the cast iron I beleave it is class 40 and not ductle.
gary
PS I just went to the hern site and see I was wrong
the liner in the 3" o\Parrott is 1/2" MY BAD.