Thanks for the info. I own an 870 but have been using it to shoot clays and to be my all around shotgun. I am still kicking myself for not buying an 870 pump on 20 gauge that I saw at a show for $115 a couple of years ago. Unfortunately, for some unknown reason, in the area of Ohio that I live in, used shotguns are almost more expensive than used. I have not seen any police turn-ins. I hit the gun shows at least every other month so I do keep an eye out. Thanks for the recomendation