well ,i went ahead and got a set of the grips off of ebay(10$ after s&h).they are a smooth black marble look with some appearance of depth.quite nice.they are slightly larger than the factory grips ,the seller stated that they were slightly larger than the white/ivory look grips.overall i'm quite happy with them.just wish i could find some of the pachmyar roundbutt w/pinky indent,they were great for control on my earlier rossi's.