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Offline swhunter

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« on: January 06, 2006, 04:02:16 AM »
Is there an alternitive for beeswax for making homemade patchlube?
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« Reply #1 on: January 06, 2006, 12:45:25 PM »
:D I use mostly Pure Neatsfood Oil.............not the Compound on all of my patches.  I do know that some of the guys will mix some Virgin Olive oil and canning type wax with good results along iwht some Murphys Oil Soap.  Lots of combinations out there ,but stay away from petroleum products if possible.................stay safe.King...................this could turn out to be a loooooooooooooooooooooooooong discussion so at least mine was brief................... :shock:  :-D  :-D
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« Reply #2 on: January 06, 2006, 10:07:23 PM »
Just about any animal fat, or vegetable substitutes, like Crisco will work. Petroleum based lubes don't work well with real black powder, and I don't know about the substitutes.  :wink:
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« Reply #3 on: January 08, 2006, 07:03:25 AM »
Another possibility is a solid cooking grease made from Palm Oil which can be found in stores like Trader Joes. It is a lot more solid than Crisco (has a viscosity more like wax). I have not tried it but it looks promising.

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« Reply #4 on: January 08, 2006, 07:55:06 AM »
Quote from: swhunter
Is there an alternitive for beeswax for making homemade patchlube?

Some patchlubes, like moosemilk, require no beeswax and work very well.  Beeswax isn't that hard to find.  There are several online sources and any hobby store will usually have it in the candlemaking supplies.  It costs more this way but a pound goes a long way.
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« Reply #5 on: February 20, 2006, 02:42:12 PM »
Soy wax is an inexpensive alternative to bees wax.

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« Reply #6 on: February 20, 2006, 09:23:57 PM »
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Another possibility is a solid cooking grease made from Palm Oil,,,,I have not tried it but it looks promising.


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« Reply #7 on: February 22, 2006, 08:15:01 PM »
Haven't had time to try the Palm Oil but was just at a craft store that sells stuff to make your own soap. They have a block of olive oil soap that is almost clear and would likely be another possibility. The soap can be meltd in the microwave or on the stove. I melted some and mixed it with some grease to thicken the grease for another application and it worked extremely well as a thickener (grease is just oil suspended in a soap anyway). With all these possibilities I may have to spend the rest of my life at the range. Can't seem to find the time to shoot even a little lately.

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« Reply #8 on: February 25, 2006, 10:23:45 PM »
I boil the bacon/sausage drippings 2 or three times to get the bits and pieces out and use it for patch lube just like that. also comes in handy for cooking squirrel on a stick rub a bit on the squirrel and sprinkle some spices already mixed couple of biscuits and u have lunch. enjoy.

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« Reply #9 on: March 04, 2006, 07:34:52 AM »
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Is there an alternitive for beeswax for making homemade patchlube?
 hello, i take and buy my patchs lubed with bore butter. if not, i use crisco melted in micro-wave and dump in patchs.i also use crisco to wet the patch as some dry out over time.i like a real wet patch with a bore wad as it is easier to push a .018 patch down bore.with bore wad,the powder does not get wet.use crisco, its cheap and works great when melted.

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« Reply #10 on: March 29, 2006, 02:34:47 AM »
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I boil the bacon/sausage drippings 2 or three times to get the bits and pieces out and use it for patch lube just like that. also comes in handy for cooking squirrel on a stick rub a bit on the squirrel and sprinkle some spices already mixed couple of biscuits and u have lunch. enjoy.


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« Reply #11 on: March 29, 2006, 01:57:00 PM »
I use Mink tallow as a patch lube. I add in bee's wax to help stiffen the tallow as the weather gets warmer.....Jim

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« Reply #12 on: March 30, 2006, 04:13:39 AM »
I use SnoSeal...have for about 30 years.