Author Topic: I should have stuck with the handgun (Read 2241 times)

Hooker · « **on:** December 15, 2005, 03:50:22 PM »

On the last day of deer rifle season I had the chance to take a doe.
My buddy and I were glassing a clear cut he had taken a doe earlier that afternoon. We spotted a group of does moving away from us well out of handgun range. My bud handed me his 223 rifle, and I took the largest doe she dropped dead at the shot. Or so I thought....
I walk down to where she had fell. She jumped up and ran out into the cut, and laid down again. I got close and aimed for her head. She should have been dead right? I walked up behind her poked her with rifle. she jumped up and kicked the snot out me. Knocking me down then took off. There I am setting on my butt unloading the rifle at her. Miss Miss Miss Click. By now the commotion had drawn a crowd of my best friends, who are almost rolling on the ground laughing.
Just then the doe collapsed into a wash about 12' deep and about 3' wide at the bottom. We all walked down to take a look, there she lay still. So we gave her a minute or two. Then I slid down the wash to retrieve her.
I grabbed her ear and reached for my knife. Thats when it got bad she got up and started kicking and pawing me. I clawed for my pistol and dropped it when she landed a good hit to my stomach. So I jumped on her trying to pin her down rassling around her kicking me and me punching her. And all my dearest friends rolling and cheering the deer.
Finally I punched her in the head and it stunned her long enough for me to find my knife and slit her throat. She exspired quickly after that. There I sat covered in blood, hers and mine out of breath and worn out.
Looking up at budds who are still howling and making colorful commentary. :-D
I said Ya'll could have helped. To which one said We didn't think she needed any help and we were surprised when she lost. And another said he wouldn't help me cause I had cost him 20 bucks on the fight.
Thats why I love them guys so much they are so caring. :?

Pat

Glanceblamm · « **Reply #1 on:** December 15, 2005, 04:25:17 PM »

While I really do enjoy a good fight it could have been much worse. Especially if you had a young Son, Niece or Nephew along with you.
Always make sure to approach a downed animal from the Side with your firearm in the Ready position.
Get a good look at the eyes. They will glaze quickly if the animal has expired. Again, it could have been much worse and the perpatrator is usually not the victim. :?

Graybeard · « **Reply #2 on:** December 15, 2005, 05:22:00 PM »

Too bad someone didn't have a video camera handy. A video of that would have been worth some money. :-D

ZZTOP · « **Reply #3 on:** December 16, 2005, 07:58:04 AM »

Hello all,
Isn't that why they call it hunting.
Your not always guaranteed to win :grin:

Happy shooting
ZZTOP

Old Griz · « **Reply #4 on:** December 16, 2005, 03:29:55 PM »

:cb2: Now surely you ain't gonna use that prairie dog gun on a deer next year are ya? :-D

Dusty Miller · « **Reply #5 on:** December 16, 2005, 10:22:39 PM »

Too bad it didn't happen in CA, you cudda sued the bitch!!

LMM · « **Reply #6 on:** December 17, 2005, 12:00:17 AM »

Who says a deer hunt isn't a dangerous game hunt? :shock: :eek: :lol:

SJPrice · « **Reply #7 on:** December 17, 2005, 12:53:14 AM »

We need a new topic, Grizzly / Doe stopper!

myronman3 · « **Reply #8 on:** December 17, 2005, 02:52:45 AM »

mistake #1 - using a 223

mistake #2 - assuming the deer was dead.

mistake #3 - walking up and polking it with the rifle without being ready to put another round into it.

mistake #4 -

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I grabbed her ear and reached for my knife. Thats when it got bad she got up and started kicking and pawing me. I clawed for my pistol and dropped it when she landed a good hit to my stomach. So I jumped on her trying to pin her down rassling around her kicking me and me punching her.

you have to be kidding me? if after the preceeding events you didnt figure out what was going on, there isnt a whole lot i can say; other than i hope that doe knocked a lesson into you.

oso45-70 · « **Reply #9 on:** December 17, 2005, 04:24:30 AM »

Hooker.

Love it when a plan comes togather........Joe.............

Van/TX · « **Reply #10 on:** December 17, 2005, 06:18:06 AM »

Believe I'd have kept that story to myself

But it was damn funny

.....Van

Old Griz · « **Reply #11 on:** December 17, 2005, 07:28:57 AM »

:cb2: Indeed! Thanks for sharing that with us.

stimpylu32 · « **Reply #12 on:** December 17, 2005, 08:43:39 AM »

At some point in this thing I hope you learned that a deer and a grounghog are two very diffrent animals .

The gun that works well for one may NOT be the best choice for the other . :?

I do hope that you are ok . :wink:

doncisler · « **Reply #13 on:** January 03, 2006, 08:12:20 AM »

sounds a little like when my grandfather hit a deer, thought it was dead and threw it in his trunk. when he got home and opened the trunk...........

WNY_Whitetailer · « **Reply #14 on:** January 03, 2006, 08:34:05 AM »

The best part about that story was that it wasn't me. I love it...What a hoot. Bet you won't do that again...

buzztail · « **Reply #15 on:** January 05, 2006, 12:21:43 PM »

Thanks for sharing, thought I would have kept my mouth shut :-D
Next time Borrow enough gun :-D

:-D

wyocarp · « **Reply #16 on:** January 10, 2006, 01:05:08 PM »

I have to agree with you buzztail. That story isn't a confidence builder.

I would have to say that it might be better to shoot it with a digital camera if you don't intend on killing the deer. I wouldn't use a 223 to shoot paper plates.

rockbilly · « **Reply #17 on:** January 10, 2006, 04:25:11 PM »

:roll: I just have to keep saying it over, and over.............IN MY OPINION the .22 class bullet is not intended for deer sized animals. Tons of deer have been lost here in West Texas with the little guns, not because they won't kill deer class animals, but because the average hunter that arms themselves with the little gun does not have the experience to use it effectively. Seems like every father wants a .222 or .223 for their sons first deer gun....what a waste. JMHO. :roll:

4MUL8R · « **Reply #18 on:** March 02, 2006, 03:00:30 PM »

Virginia requires .24 caliber or larger for deer.

Sorry you had so much trouble.

Once came upon a fellow who found a deer staggering on the road after being hit by car. He put it out of its misery with his knife, as you did. After securing the proper paperwork from the local gendarmes to permit the fellow to have the dead deer, it went into his trunk. Never thought I'd see that...deer stuffed into truck of economy car.

(Here in the commonwealth of Virginia the commonwealth owns the deer, and the representatives of the commonwealth (the police) have to release the deer to an individual in these situations.)

corbanzo · « **Reply #19 on:** March 03, 2006, 11:59:59 AM »

Having a little trouble with the girls are ya? :-D Thats a good laugh. At least she's dead, didnt' end up going off and suffering... Maybe if you can find a 180 grain JHP for the .223??

ms · « **Reply #20 on:** March 04, 2006, 12:07:35 AM »

YOU ARE IRRESPONSIBLE HUNTER AND YOUR FRIEND. TO SHOOT A DEER WITH A 223. THAT DEER SUFFER I HOPE YOUR HAPPY. DOES YOUR STATE ALLOW HUNTER TO HUNT WITH A 223 FOR DEER ? IF NOT YOU ARE POACHER. FOR PEOPLE ON THIS POST TO LAUGH ABOUT THIS SUBJECT IS IRRESPONSIBLE. GET A BIGGER GUN OR STAY HOME. You made your self look like a a$$. :evil:

Dusty Miller · « **Reply #21 on:** March 04, 2006, 07:46:23 AM »

Hey MS, he was open and candid about the whole thing. I'd bet my next paycheck there are a few folks here who've wounded animals and let'm slip away but won't admit it. As for shooting deer with a .223 it'd not be my first choice but a well placed shot should take one down, they're not hard to kill.

ms · « **Reply #22 on:** March 05, 2006, 02:27:36 AM »

Dusty it's one thing to go out with a deer rifle and things go wrong but a 223 your setting your self up for a bad day. Just think about it this way if you were going to kill your self. Would you shoot your self in the head for a fast death. Or in the foot to bleed to death. It's all common sense. Him admitting to this poor judgement doesn't make it better and for your paycheck. If you ask every one here if they lost a deer before they would say yes. Because it happens to every one. But your next question would be what caliber were you hunting with. 99% would say caliber for big game. Your logic makes no sense. And for a well place shot with a 223 ask hooker where the first shot was or the deer.:lol:

ironfoot · « **Reply #23 on:** March 16, 2006, 10:06:25 PM »

Glad you are OK.

Qaz · « **Reply #24 on:** March 17, 2006, 01:44:19 AM »

MS- your argument doesn't fly. If I was killing myself, both calibers will work equally well if I shoot myself in the head. Both calibers will work equally poorly if I shoot myself in the foot. :-D :-D
Sorry Charlie, but I live next to a state that allows 22 centerfires for deer. Most are taken with the 22-250 and then the 223. Alot of deer are taken, and we only know about the ones checked in, the rest are taken with a 22mag at night. That caliber crap doesn't flush, a good shot is a good shot on an animal and no one can ever say that if the animal was shot with a larger caliber in the same place that it would die any quicker.
Let me tell you, if I ever have the choice of some hillbilly shooting at me with a 22 that he is deadly with or a 300 mag that he is not, I know which I will pick!

Qaz

Redhawk1 · « **Reply #25 on:** March 17, 2006, 02:19:35 AM »

Quote from: Qaz

MS- your argument doesn't fly. If I was killing myself, both calibers will work equally well if I shoot myself in the head. Both calibers will work equally poorly if I shoot myself in the foot. :-D :-D
Sorry Charlie, but I live next to a state that allows 22 centerfires for deer. Most are taken with the 22-250 and then the 223. Alot of deer are taken, and we only know about the ones checked in, the rest are taken with a 22mag at night. That caliber crap doesn't flush, a good shot is a good shot on an animal and no one can ever say that if the animal was shot with a larger caliber in the same place that it would die any quicker.
Let me tell you, if I ever have the choice of some hillbilly shooting at me with a 22 that he is deadly with or a 300 mag that he is not, I know which I will pick!

Qaz

The problem I find with you statement is, if I am accurate with a 22 I am accurate with a 300 win mag. I shoot all my guns accurate. I also think a .22 cal is not a good choice for deer. I am not saying they won't work, but just a bad choice. JMHO.

ms · « **Reply #26 on:** March 18, 2006, 06:40:06 AM »

Qaz I'am talking about suffering not calibers.I would say you are a hillbilly. Please name the states that you can hunt big game with a 22 caliber. :wink:

EastKY_DO · « **Reply #27 on:** March 18, 2006, 02:11:04 PM »

As bad of an idea as it is, the law permits centerfire .22 cals here in Kentucky. In fact the game laws say ANY centerfire cartridge is legal. (e.g. .32 ACP included) :evil:

Doc

Broken-arrow · « **Reply #28 on:** March 19, 2006, 03:26:12 PM »

Funny story Hooker. But I wish you would have said 30-06 instead of .223. Then the naysayers would have put the blame where it belongs, shot placement, not caliber :roll: