Author Topic: NY State Sex Offender Registry (Read 2245 times)

WNY_Whitetailer · « **on:** February 08, 2006, 05:48:53 AM »

I just wanted to share this with my NY State brethern...You can access the NYS Division of Criminal Justice Services website and search for the NY State Sex Offender Registry. In that registry you can input your town and see where the perps are located. So, if you want to know where your local sex offenders live just click on the following link:

http://criminaljustice.state.ny.us/nsor/search_index.htm

bubba · « **Reply #1 on:** February 08, 2006, 09:31:14 AM »

only bad part is it only shows the level 3s. In order to find out the level 2 or level 1 you need to contact your local police department.

dcnewyork · « **Reply #2 on:** February 09, 2006, 01:57:00 PM »

Wow......I looked on that site and was quite supprised to see the names of 4 people I had known since early elementry school, one even lived down the street from me for a while! I had not seen any one of these people since they droped out of highschool, they were all losers from birth. I do remember rumbling with 3 of them though, lol; guess I was a good judge of character back then. Kind of scary that these people are around, and they always have been..........

Mikey · « **Reply #3 on:** February 10, 2006, 03:11:38 AM »

dcnewyork - you're right about sex offenders, they have always been around. Now however, they are spending more time in the spotlight, so to speak. The Governor doesn't want them back out on the streets and I don't blame him. It is the liberals who call for 'rights' for these people, not those who pnow the psychopathology these creatans possess.

Back in the old days few people reported that they or their children had been abused - we didn't have a concept of sexual abuse back then. Now it may be over used and used inappropriately. A couple of months ago we had a city fella arrested for assault and battery against a neighboring woman. He had recently moved to the city and after that had his college aged daughter visit with a friend. A nosy neighbor thought this inappropriate and ran his name through the sex offender registry. He was horrified at the arrogance of this idiot who had spioken to this and impugned his name, lost his temper when she told him right to his face what she had done and he beat her to a pulp. He was arrested and fined for assault and battery and then had his lawyer sue to woman for defamation of character. The suit is still on-going and I think he is looking to force her to sell her home to pay for the damages.

I feel his actions are soooo right, even the beating he gave her although I do not recommend this and will not strike a woman - I feel you can do better with public humiliation.

Anywho, as for sex offenders - their psychopathology for predatory sex with children does not diminish over time and is not effectively subject to psychological treatment. There is a reason the Governor wants to keep them 'incarcerated' in psychiatric hospitals - they are dangerous predators and remain so, especially the level 2 and 3s. They should not be released. Many are capable of murder and combined with their sexual predation make them nothing more than dangerous animals. I dealt with a number of these savages in state psychiatric hospitals and fought hard to keep many from being released.

My favorite response to social workers who sought community release for these felons was - ok, we will place them in the community within eyesight of your home, your teenage daughter and her schoolmates - now do you want him released????????? I also told them that if one of their released sex offenders struck again I would see that charges were brought against those who sought their release. They didn't like that very much.

I feel they should remain incarcerated. The damage they cause is 'lifelong' - nobody ever forgets what happens when they attack someone and they should never be released to prey on children again. JMHO. Mikey.

WNY_Whitetailer · « **Reply #4 on:** February 10, 2006, 10:48:37 AM »

There are a few in my city as well...It's a big wake up call when they live around you and you would never have known it unless this registry was created. I have a 20 month old little girl and a second child on the way...I am going to take no chanced with these lowlifes.

Mikey · « **Reply #5 on:** February 11, 2006, 02:55:19 PM »

Whitetailer - your best defense against these people is information, and you have a right to know. Levels 1's are registered in the community and that information is available through the NYS sex offender registry.

In addition, the local police department is supposed to have all the information on level 2s and 3s who are not so openly registered. You can simply ask your local PD if there are any Level 2 or 3 sex offenders living in your community. Your reasons are legitimate and they have to provide you with an answer. You may not be able to find out who they are or where they live but at least you will know whether there are other concerns you may or may not have to face.

Keeping a cool head about things and being alert to changes in your vicinity is always a good idea. If it becomes a personal/family concern call the PD - they are pretty responsive to those concerns. Mikey

NYH1 · « **Reply #6 on:** February 12, 2006, 08:13:33 AM »

Isn't a sex offender a sex offender. Now we're giving them different levels. They should all be....well maybe this isn't the place to say that! :evil: :gun4: :biggun: :sniper: :excuseme:

bubba · « **Reply #7 on:** February 12, 2006, 12:33:13 PM »

Mikey you have it backwards level 3 are on the registry level one and two are available locally. I work with a lot of them and I hate it. The differences in the levels is how much the judge feels they are likely to reoffend. level 1 being the least likely 2 then 3 being the most likely. In my mind thay are all just as likely and where I work they are now talking about housing them when they come out of prison at our local psych center and the community is up in arms. Bring all the level 3's to st law county where we can have them all no thanx.

WNY_Whitetailer · « **Reply #8 on:** February 12, 2006, 02:42:59 PM »

Quote from: Mikey

In addition, the local police department is supposed to have all the information on level 2s and 3s who are not so openly registered. You can simply ask your local PD if there are any Level 2 or 3 sex offenders living in your community. Your reasons are legitimate and they have to provide you with an answer. You may not be able to find out who they are or where they live but at least you will know whether there are other concerns you may or may not have to face.

Actually I just accepted a police officer position in my city so I will have the list of every 1, 2 & 3 in my community whenever I wish to look them up.

NYH1 · « **Reply #9 on:** February 12, 2006, 03:51:15 PM »

Quote from: WNY_Whitetailer

Actually I just accepted a police officer position in my city so I will have the list of every 1, 2 & 3 in my community whenever I wish to look them up.

WNY_Whitetailer, congratulations on the new job!

Mikey · « **Reply #10 on:** February 13, 2006, 02:26:23 AM »

Whitetailler: Congradulations on getting that job. Yes, now you will have all the information you need at your dispposal - use it wisely.

bubba: thanks for squaring me away. When I dealt with these savages at psych centers they had not yet been granted any particular 'level' status, so I'm a bit 'off' on that end of things.

As you know, I am no fan of having these predators even released to a psych center, mainly because many of the gutless social workers who work in discharge programs fail to understand the severity or longevity of a predator's dementia and predilection (?) for children and other vunerable people and try to influence local judges to release them to the community. My original position stands - that is I want them to discharge these predators to within eyesight of their homes, their teenage daughters and friends and their schools - then they seem to get the idea that you don't want these people out on the streets.

However, if the Governor can finalize his plans for secure treatment units for these predators the folks who usually treat these savages are much less likely to try and discharge them. That should help keep them off the streets for a while........... until spitzer and his liberal zealots get into office, then there will be blood in the streets. And that's one of my real concerns. Mikey.

bubba · « **Reply #11 on:** February 13, 2006, 12:27:41 PM »

Hey whitetailer conga rats on the new job. I wish now as I look back I would have went into law enforcement 25 years ago like I wanted to. I wasnted toi get into encon police but at that time the hire freeze was on. Oh well that is how it goes. I like what I do now just as well. Stay safe out there

Graybeard · « **Reply #12 on:** February 13, 2006, 06:44:33 PM »

I'm probably gonna make all of ya mad with this post but so be it. I've most often taken the road less traveled and never been know to be ver PC.

All of these sex offender registries are grossly unconstitutional. If the judges were more worried about upholding the Constitution and less concerned about being PC and making law they would have ruled them as such long ago.

According to the Constitution once a person has done their time they are supposed to be made whole again and to be considered to have paid their debt to society. ONLY if and when they do something wrong again are they to be punished again.

Yes I know "they" say sex offenders are more prone to be repeat offenders and maybe they are. I dunno. I doubt there is adequate proof to justify the registries.

Now don't assume I'm soft on such folks, far from it. I don't care what the penalty is that's assigned to them. If life in prison so be it. If death so be it. I care not one whit what punishment we meet out to them. But dang it once we've done to them what the law says then they have paid their debt and shouldn't be treated likea criminal the rest of their lives. They've paid their debt to society according to the Constitution and should be left the heck alone unless and until such time as they break the law again.

If we feel they are such a threat to society that they can never ever again be trusted then don't let them out. Keep them in prison for life or end their lives with the death penalty.

OK soap box mode off. I believe in the US Constitution and it irks me to no end the way it's being treated these days.

bubba · « **Reply #13 on:** February 14, 2006, 12:29:50 AM »

Bill
I certainly see your point and can not argue it. Unfortunately I work with these creeps and trust me they are always looking to reoffend. What about the guy in Vermont who repeatedly raped a young girl from the ages of 2 to 7 admitted it openly and the judge gave him 60 days in jail. If that guy got out and moved into the neighborhood you lived in and did it again or God forbid did it to your young child would you not appreciate a heads up. Not only that if it were me and it were my daughter I would certainly violate his rights and kill him on sight. We need to protect kids since they can not protect themselves from these idiots. I have a brother who is on that list in NY and believe me he is not welcome around my house and if he ever does he will be sent on his way one way or another. I believe that the registry is a small step to protect kids. Either that or part of their punishment should be to have sex offender tattoed on their foreheads which if it was done as part of their sentencing that would be ok.

Graybeard · « **Reply #14 on:** February 14, 2006, 05:13:53 AM »

I don't much care what we do to them as long as it's part and parcel of the original sentence. Brand them, stick them in for life or even give them the death penalty if that's what society deems is appropriate.

But dang it once a person has served whatever the penalty society demands of them at sentencing they have paid their debt to society and if you believe in the US Constitution should not be punished again for that same crime. If facts back up that they will repeat then don't ever let them out.

bubba · « **Reply #15 on:** February 14, 2006, 09:58:56 AM »

part of the sentencing is that they be put on the registry. It isnt something that comes along later.

bubba · « **Reply #16 on:** February 14, 2006, 10:01:49 AM »

and part of the constitution allows for punishment that fits the crime. Murderers do not get life in prison so it would be tough to say a sex offender deserves life.

Mikey · « **Reply #17 on:** February 15, 2006, 03:30:34 AM »

Boss - I have to agree with your stand on the Constitution and I also agree with your second post - that the punishment should be part and parcel of their sentencing.

With this in mind we need to determine a proper sentence, as these 'people' do not respond to imprisonment or psychiatric treatment, which is why their recidivism rate is so high. The old notion of convicts/prisoners not liking child abusers and making it tough for them in prison has washed out significantly with so many imprisoned for sex crimes and with the incredibly violent psychopathology they posess. Prison isn't a terrible penalty for some of these people anymore, it's sort of like a respite that allows them to prepare for their next bout of freedom and predation. This is why I don't have a problem with Pataki's insistence that they remain in soem sort of custody, whether penal or mental health, as long as they remain off the streets.

To make a comparison - many of those who commit suicide never let on that they have a plan to do so, even when they meet with trusted advisors the day before - they all say they are just fine, thank you. A sexual predator will always tell you that he/she no longer has those urges, especially when they are talking to you, and that fools many, very many of the so-called mental health professionals, but not all. Fortunately Pataki has some good advisors and they don't work in his state's mental health system which is full of idiots, liberals and dumbocrats who would discharge these people to private housing within sight of schools because not to would seem unfair...........to them of course.

Sentencing for sexual offendors should include life-long institutionalization, whether prison or psychiatric hospitalization, and that should be part of their sentencing. Tax-payers would probably scream at the cost of keeping them in prison for life, unless one of them victimized their child.

It has always seemed to me that if you are going to bring children into this world you should do as much as you can to protect them so they can grow healthy, happy and into a useful and productive life. In this light I would protect them as much as possible against these predators and if that means keeping them off the streets forever the cost for incarceration is much less than the cost of the human suffering they cause or the cost of treating their victims. JMHO. Mikey.

Adkhunter · « **Reply #18 on:** April 01, 2006, 09:09:54 AM »

Good thing they don't post all the felons!!!
We would all be looking over our shoulders..... :shock: