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Increasing trigger pull weight?
« on: March 13, 2006, 05:12:03 AM »
How do I increase the trigger pull weight on a 1911? I want to go up about a pound. Thanks.
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Increasing trigger pull weight?
« Reply #1 on: March 13, 2006, 04:58:53 PM »
You can increase the trigger pull weight by bending the center, and left leafs of the sear spring.  Its best to bend both, just a little rather than trying to do it by bending just one.  The center leaf puts pressure on the trigger, while the left leaf puts pressure on both the trigger and the sear.

But why do you want to increase the trigger pull?

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« Reply #2 on: March 14, 2006, 03:46:41 AM »
Thanks for the insight.

The extra weight is to bring it up to the 4 pounds needed to be consistent with Bullseye Hardball regulations.  It's about 3 pounds now.
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« Reply #3 on: March 15, 2006, 04:53:50 PM »
I tried bending the leaves as you indicated, but could only get another 1/2 pound out if it. I don't know if bending it more would help or not. All I need is another half pound. Any ideas?
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« Reply #4 on: March 16, 2006, 02:38:14 AM »
The only things that impact trigger pull weight are the sear spring (left two leaves) and the hammer sear engagement.  

For hammer sear engagement, the hammer hooks have to be cut to a height of .020"  (some go to .018), The hammer hooks have to be squared and polished.  The Sear has to have the proper primary and secondary engagement angles, and those surfaces have to be polished.  

But all of that is towards getting a clean crisp trigger with no creap, and you need a jig and a bunch of stones to do this work.

Since your hammer was already at 3 lbs, the only adjustment you should be making is to the sear spring as previously described.

One exception.... If you rack the slide and let it slam forward and the hammer falls into the half cock notch, you may need to have the hammer and sear re-cut, or even replaced.  (Note, this is not a practice I recommend, but it should be done once or twice after a trigger job just to make sure the hammer doesn't fall.  After that, don't do it again, because it can screw up a good trigger job)  

Even if the hammer is falling, it can often be corrected by increasing the tension on the sear spring.   Everytime I do a trigger job, I replace the stock sear spring with a Clark four leaf sear spring.   The fourth leaf helps to prevent hammer fall on guns with light triggers.

Long story,,, short answer,  bend the spring some more.

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« Reply #5 on: March 16, 2006, 04:08:59 AM »
Thank you for taking the time to help me out. I will bend the spring some more. The hammer hook is cut to .020". I've tried racking it in the way you describe and there is no problem with it.  Best regards!
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« Reply #6 on: March 16, 2006, 04:03:37 PM »
rbwillnj:


It worked! Thanks! It took a few more iterations, but it's perfect now. I just had to bend it another 1/8th inch or so.  

Much obliged!
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« Reply #7 on: March 19, 2006, 09:48:30 AM »
Just a comment on releasing the slide without a loaded magazine in the well screwing up a PROPERLY cut sear engagement.  Nope! myth. As far as doing same and hammer going to half cock. Happens frequently on match grade TARGET pistols with light triggers. These pistols are set up to cycle loaded mags and releasing the slide can jar the hammer off the sear. Not a big deal on TARGET pistols. I'm holding my ears so I can't hear the disagreement but, I am going by 29 years of experience working on 1911s. :shock:
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« Reply #8 on: March 19, 2006, 09:52:38 AM »
By the way you picked the correct method to increase trigger pull. You could also gain a little trigger pull by increasing the hammer spring weight which would also increase the hammer speed.
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You can also increase the friction of the trigger
« Reply #9 on: April 21, 2006, 05:42:23 PM »
in the frame, I suppose. :-) Then go someplace private and get rid of the grit, punch marks, etc, you used to beat the rules.
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