Who can machine flint and percusion breeches?

[Naphtali]

I need to have a small number of flintlock and cap lock patent breeches custom machined. Any help finding someone will be appreciated.

[dodd3]

why dont you give track of the wolfe a try they sell both.http://www.trackofthewolf.com/
bernie

[lostid]

I need to have a small number of flintlock and cap lock patent breeches custom machined. Any help finding someone will be appreciated.

 What do you need done to them?

[Naphtali]

lostid:

I have 2.500-inch round stock remaining from a project. The round stock is to be machined to finished [patent] breeches. I can furnish it to the machinist-gun maker as one hunk or cut per his instruction. "Cut to his instruction" might mean cutting across the diameter?? Depends on what the machinist wants.

Depending upon estimated elapsed time to completion, I might also request rear tangs (standing breeches). For these, I have bar stock.

[lostid]

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[lostid]

I need to have a small number of flintlock and cap lock patent breeches custom machined. Any help finding someone will be appreciated.

bull puckey ,,the guy has no idea of what he speaks.(period)

[spitpatch]

I need to have a small number of flintlock and cap lock patent breeches custom machined. Any help finding someone will be appreciated.

bull puckey ,,the guy has no idea of what he speaks.(period)

Lostid, why do you say that......please enlighten us unlearned folks.

[lostid]

Lostid, why do you say that......please enlighten us unlearned folks.

 naphtali has posted for many years,,the "patent" breech requires just a little more work than napht is requesting and he knows that.
 Yes. 2.500 round stock could/can be made into a "patent" breech.. with drills,lathes and machine tools.Or, a rat tail file and a LONG time.

 He asks for "a small number of flint and caplock","paten breeches"..right, this indicates to me that the requester is kinda cluless of what it takes/and or/ what a "paten" breech is.

 Hello? "flint" and "cap lock" paten breech,,,,,Yes, thats true. They both exsist.,,yet they are far different from each other in manufacture.(FAR!)
 are ya gonna drill the side and place a cup?? or weld a
drum on it and thread it for a nipple?
 so, spitpatch? can you do it? flint and cap? paten breech. Several.

[ButlerFord45]

I need to have a small number of flintlock and cap lock patent breeches custom machined. Any help finding someone will be appreciated.

I'm curious, are you looking for a true "patent breech" or just a hooked breech plug?

[Naphtali]

Lostid: Have you lostid?

I request assistance. Since you have decided to be unhelpful, please also be silent.
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ButlerFord45:

Perhaps I am using incorrect terminology. When I write "patent" breech and refer to percussion cap ignition, Hawken-type or Alex Henry-type snail drum that tips off of a standing tang.

When I refer to flint ignition, same type of tip-off breech plus, perhaps a Nock-type interior configuration?

Am I clearer? Am I asking for the moon?

[spitpatch]

no Lostid, I cannot do it....I'm just a humble country boy that just enjoys shooting them. Snail drums and patent breeches are unfamiliar terms in my world. We do have here in town a whip butt gun smith/machinist, that has a son that won national championships from the guns this man made. He shoots/builds .22 bolts that are sold worldwide. I was just thinking he might be interested if the money was good for these kentucky do-dads. I'm not up to speed on flinters.......I seen one once in a picture. Just trying to learn is the reason I asked.

[Winter Hawk]

Hoo-boy!  We went through this on MLML a little while ago.  The patent breech plug is one which has a powder chamber in it.  The touch hole (flintlock) or bolster (percussion) are integral with the breech plug.  A plain breech plug is just that, it plugs the back of the barrel.  The touch hole or drum are drilled or attached to the barrel ahead of the breech plug.  Both the plain and the patent breech can be hooked to fit into the tang, or be one piece with the tang.

The bolster is what the nipple is screwed into.  It can be the drum style which screws into the barrel or patent breech plug, or it can be a "snail" which is cast one piece with the patent breech.

Here is an example of a patent breech with the snail cast in: http://www.trackofthewolf.com/categories/partDetail.aspx?catId=14&subId=143&styleId=516&partNum=PLUG-JB-18-3

Here is one with a drum cast in: http://www.trackofthewolf.com/categories/partDetail.aspx?catId=14&subId=143&styleId=519&partNum=PLUG-OH-13-5

And here is a plain breech plug: http://www.trackofthewolf.com/categories/partDetail.aspx?catId=14&subId=143&styleId=512&partNum=PLUG-TN-16-3

The first one has a hooked breech while the other two have the tang as part of the plug.

Hope this helps!

-WH-

[spitpatch]

Thanks for the education Winter Hawk.......cleared me right up! brought me up to speed with the rest of you hard core smoke polers. I have noticed the different styles but was never aware of what they were called.

[ButlerFord45]

.......or if you're up for a drum that screws into the breach plug, your machinist could probably handle that fairly easily but it's still probably going to be cheaper to buy.

[RaiderANV]

Naphtali contact Larry Romano at the below info and tell him PJ sent ya. He builds Sharps, Maynard, Confederate Keene & Walker arms that match original spec's and quality. He also makes barrels for about any black powder muzzle loader out there. Work is top quality and he's reasonable and pretty good turnaround time.
Hope this helps ya out. Pat Kelly

L. ROMANO RIFLE CO.
THE ALAMO GUN SHOP
551 STAWARTS CORNER RD.
PENNELLVILLE, NY 13132
(315) 695-2066
Check out his website for additional info:
http://www.romanorifle.com/

[Naphtali]

RaiderANV:

Many thanks for the information. He is #2 on the list -- knock'm down like bowling pins and eventually, the money goes out.