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Offline Incitatus

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« on: April 02, 2006, 04:12:19 AM »
Good day to you all.

This post is going to be a bit all over the place so I will apologise up front.

I came across this forum in doing a search on the Tannenberg Gun.  I saw a thread that appeared to have just died that was discussing a bnch of folks getting together to have reproductions made in "bulk" to keep the costs down.  I am very interested in the project and would like to participate but am perplexed that such a really fine idea appears to have petered out.  Or... did you do it and I missed the boat? :)

I collect arms and armor and some modern firearms and modern blackpowder firearms and a few cannon and ... you get the idea.

I recently obtained this object and I thought that I would share it.





It is 4.2" long by 1.75" across the flats and has a .94" bore.  I suspect that it is a handgonne barrel from say around 1400.  I am in touch with my buds at the Royal Armouries and should get some better info in due course.  An interestinf "duel use" of this barrel is that it would serve admirably as a weapon if you chucked it at someones head.

I recall, back in the mists of time, that there was an ad in American Rifleman for a repro of the Tannenberg Gun.  I am guessing that this was back in 1976.  Does this ring a bell with anyone?  Is anyone even that old?  I think (accent on "think") that it was a fireing replica.

Anyway, let me know your thoughts on these things.

Ed[/img]
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« Reply #1 on: April 02, 2006, 04:37:13 AM »
First let me welcome you to our board. Always glad to have new people bring fresh ideas ot the board.

Rest assured there are no dead ideas on this board. Dormant yes, dead no.

I do believe several of the fellows made hand gonnes.  

Do you have a picture of the flared end?

Tell us some more about where you came up with this item.

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« Reply #2 on: April 02, 2006, 05:01:54 AM »
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First let me welcome you to our board. Always glad to have new people bring fresh ideas ot the board.

Rest assured there are no dead ideas on this board. Dormant yes, dead no.


What about this brings a parrot to mind? :)

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I do believe several of the fellows made hand gonnes.  

Do you have a picture of the flared end?


Your wish, etc.



It appears that the vent was made by simply taking a chisel and literally cqrving it the way you would a piece of wood.

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Tell us some more about where you came up with this item.


The short answer is a flea market here in CT.  The immediate, knee jerk response to such a "find site" is incredulity.  However, the really interesting thing is that with WWI, WWII, absurdly cheap air fares and a reasonably affluent population, you should not be surprised to see what turns up in such places and consign markets and the like.  This is probably the wrong forum for it but I have found a 12th c. panel, a 16th. c. sculpture, an old master print and various other arcane objects.  It's pretty interesting, actually.  I think that most people say to themselves (if they even recognize the object for what it is) "nah, couldn't be".  

Oh, the dealer evidentially bought it from some guy who said that it was excavated in England.  Who knows.
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« Reply #3 on: April 02, 2006, 07:13:20 AM »
Incitatus -

Indeed, WELCOME, I think if you (or someone else) were to start a new thread on a 'group buy' that there are enough SPONSORS within earshot that would love to contract a run of them.  We got tangled up in design and strength and testing; now that we're into a new day with reasonable confidence of the above, a project like this could fly.

Incitatus sounds Latin.  Translation?

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« Reply #4 on: April 02, 2006, 10:15:56 AM »
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Incitatus -

Indeed, WELCOME, I think if you (or someone else) were to start a new thread on a 'group buy' that there are enough SPONSORS within earshot that would love to contract a run of them.  We got tangled up in design and strength and testing; now that we're into a new day with reasonable confidence of the above, a project like this could fly.

Incitatus sounds Latin.  Translation?


I shall start a thread on that subject.

Incitatus means "fleet of foot" and was the name of the racehorse that, supposedly, Caligula made a Senator.  My name is "Ed" but there are just too many Ed's for me to use it.  Incitatus is my fall back since 1) it usually works and 2) I can remember it and 3) it is sorta funny.

Please get all Mr. Ed jokes overwith now.  Thank you. :-D
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Re: Old things that are somewhat destructive.
« Reply #5 on: April 02, 2006, 10:40:05 AM »
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I recently obtained this object and I thought that I would share it.





It is 4.2" long by 1.75" across the flats and has a .94" bore.  I suspect that it is a handgonne barrel from say around 1400.  I am in touch with my buds at the Royal Armouries and should get some better info in due course.  An interestinf "duel use" of this barrel is that it would serve admirably as a weapon if you chucked it at someones head.


The flared bottom leads me to suspect that this is a signal cannon, rather than a handgonne. Though it may well be a gonne. Only, upon close examination would it become evident, if it is indeed a gonne barrel.