Author Topic: Dead Bushnell Banner 1.5x4.5 (Read 1358 times)

rickt300 · « **on:** December 16, 2005, 06:34:47 AM »

I put one of them on my 45-70 last year. It's a M1895 standard model and the loads I shot in it at first were a mild loading pushing the 350 grain bullet to 1550 fps. Not satisified with the lack of expansion this bullet exhibited on deer I switched to a hotter loading using the 300 grain Remington HP at 1900 fps. It took 10 shots to get it where I wanted it on my 70 yard range which is more than I thought necessary to lowere impact two inches. Well I missed a 160 class buck the next weekend and a 200 pound feral hog the same day. I switched to my 308 and then neck shot both a turkey and a slightly larger feral hog. I went to the range yesterday to check sighting on the 45-70 and a couple other rifles. First shot with the 45-70 was 4 inches high at 50 yards, second was 3 inches left. Went to the hundred yard range, looked thru the scope and the reticle is tilted at the 1oclock-7 oclock angle. Pulled the scope off and fired a 2 inch group with the factory irons. So should I send Bushnell a bill for all expenses incurred deer hunting for the last 30 years looking for the buck I missed?

Redhawk1 · « **Reply #1 on:** December 16, 2005, 09:04:21 AM »

That is the reason I put Leupold scopes on my rifles. Not saying it won't ever happen to a Leupold, but it is a lot less likely to happen.

quickdtoo · « **Reply #2 on:** December 16, 2005, 09:49:25 AM »

Considering that scope is well liked by the members at MO for use on 45-70 leverguns, I think ya just got a bad one and Bushnell should stand behind it, give em a chance to fix it.

http://bushnell.com/customer_service/

Zachary · « **Reply #3 on:** December 16, 2005, 02:38:09 PM »

I generally don't recommend any bushnell scopes below the Trophy line, especially on harder kicking rifles.

In the meantime, yes, send it back to Bushnell for work, but do yourself a favor and get an Elite 3200. Although on a 45-70, I would also side with Redhawk and get a Leupold VX-II.

You lost a 160 class deer because of a cheap scope. Would you consider that deer to be worth $250? If yes, then just buy a better scope.

Zachary

rickt300 · « **Reply #4 on:** December 16, 2005, 07:20:03 PM »

I really hadn't shot many rounds in rifles mouted with this scope. Around 150 30-30 rounds, maybe 30-50 with the mild 45-70 load and less than20 with the more powerful loading. In my notes on range time the last time I took it to the range it was on my 30-30 and I noted something about being puzzeled why my favorite loads were grouping so poorly. The scope could have been losing it then. I am going to send it back after the first of the year and see if they will just keep it and give me a deal on a higher grade of scope they make. I'd have to say that I have already invested thousands of dollars in him and yes even a 400 dollar scope would have been cheap if The shot had gone where it wassupposed to.

quickdtoo · « **Reply #5 on:** December 16, 2005, 08:03:42 PM »

Hmmm, maybe it's them pistol primers you use in the 45-70 loads!!! :-D :-D

rickt300 · « **Reply #6 on:** December 18, 2005, 12:51:07 PM »

I used large rifle primers with the hotter loading. This is the second scope the 1895 has eaten, the other was a 2.5x BSA and it lasted about the same number of 405 grain elk loads. I like shooting the 1895 better with irons anyway especially with the punchier loads so I am going to put on a peep sight and leave it there. When I get the 1.5x4.5 back from Bushnell it's going on my 22 magnum Marlin.

45north · « **Reply #7 on:** March 19, 2006, 01:50:09 PM »

rickt300,

What did bushnell do with your scope. Do you have any updates for us?

45north

rickt300 · « **Reply #8 on:** April 06, 2006, 06:13:05 AM »

It came backwith a note saying it had been "adjusted" and the crosshairs were recentered. I tried to mount it on my Marlin 22 magnum and the rear cbjective is too large. I haven't put it on a rifle since I got it back. Imay put it on a 243 to use on predators.