Author Topic: now this is a big bore (Read 2024 times)

dodd3 · « **on:** February 27, 2006, 01:08:07 AM »

for all you big bore fans have a look at this the price is in us dollars dont no who would be hurt more the game or the shooter lol.
bernie :eek:

http://www.centuryarms.com.au/docs/4bore.html

Redhawk1 · « **Reply #1 on:** February 27, 2006, 01:26:42 AM »

Now that's a big bore. :shock: :shock: :eek:

msorenso · « **Reply #2 on:** February 27, 2006, 08:05:35 AM »

wHAT IS THE VELOCITY

ON 2000 GRAINS!!!!!!!!???

Feldhege · « **Reply #3 on:** February 27, 2006, 08:34:38 AM »

Found these two articles on a guys hunt with one. Good read.

http://www.african-hunter.com/4-bore_part_i.htm
http://www.african-hunter.com/4-bore_part_ii.htm

He says in one of them it is more of a push then a recoil. I guess because the lead is so large it is hard to get it up to speed? Don't know, just guessing.

Robb

dodd3 · « **Reply #4 on:** February 27, 2006, 10:17:03 PM »

MSORENSO ABOUT 1550 FPS THATS 10672 FOOT POUNDS OF MUZZEL ENERGY.rob if you notic he is using black powder 437 grn load the gun is a heavy gun so the recoil would be just a big push i hav that on my com puter already. there is a good story on a duble rifle on this site, read the also the storey about bow hunting booligal boars by nat neeson he is a very good friend of mine he holds the ozy record for the biggest bow shot camal

http://www.australianhunting.net/
BERNIE

killdeer · « **Reply #5 on:** February 28, 2006, 07:24:44 AM »

Read one of Capsticks storys, guy used a 4 bore. The guy(professional hunter) wrote in the 1800s of his experiences with it. Said he never really shot well again after the 4 bore. I think it would be much more than a "big push" seeing as how it dehorsed him more than once. His load was described as "a handfull of black powder" :bye:

dave hall · « **Reply #6 on:** February 28, 2006, 11:35:20 AM »

What would be a good whitetail load for that. :lol:

JD338 · « **Reply #7 on:** February 28, 2006, 01:25:19 PM »

For Whitetails, I woould suggest a "varmint load"! :lol:

JD338

nasem · « **Reply #8 on:** March 01, 2006, 01:58:17 PM »

umm....... why not just buy a us-miliatary tank for 20 million dollars and go hunting with it ? atleast you don't have to carry it all day long

slave · « **Reply #9 on:** March 01, 2006, 03:47:42 PM »

$35,000 usd. Just a bit out of my reach.

hubel458 · « **Reply #10 on:** March 01, 2006, 07:39:50 PM »

Some of us on AR are getting 4bore barrels made
hopefully this spring, to build guns with.
Plan on using 4bore cases we made from 20 mmm
brass, and use Naval Ordnance(In WV) 2000gr
slugs.Here is pic of cases and slugs with
20mm we build them from and an 06 for
comparison...Ed

corbanzo · « **Reply #11 on:** March 06, 2006, 09:41:55 AM »

It always seems that we are reverting back to our roots..., the biggest club wins!! I always liked seeing people experimenting with different rounds. There is only a few ways to make a .30 caliber different, but there is an infinite number of bigger out there!! Maybe the mamoth will come back... how about getting a shot on one of those??

jro45 · « **Reply #12 on:** April 01, 2006, 07:38:01 AM »

First thing you'll know someone will come out with rifled slugs for it.

Don Fischer · « **Reply #13 on:** April 03, 2006, 11:51:45 AM »

I would never want to shoot one of those things but I'd sure like to have one. What beautiful work, WOW! Oh, I'm talking about the double guns.

msorenso · « **Reply #14 on:** April 03, 2006, 03:09:19 PM »

What caliber does a 4 bore calculate to??

hubel458 · « **Reply #15 on:** April 03, 2006, 03:41:11 PM »

Mathematically- 1.052 in. But most have been or are
made smaller than that.Clear down to .938
for the Tulla and Gevelot 4bore.Ed.

msorenso · « **Reply #16 on:** April 04, 2006, 04:22:20 AM »

[nasem quoted "umm....... why not just buy a us-miliatary tank for 20 million dollars and go hunting with it ? atleast you don't have to carry it all day long"]

Oh my fart this is so lame :? [/quote]

Don Fischer · « **Reply #17 on:** April 04, 2006, 06:29:53 AM »

Wasn't the "Baby Baker" a 4 bore? Seems I read that it was developed just for dangerious game in Africa? At the time it was developed and used, I think there were some fairly weak kneed cartridges around. I think I also read that not many people cared much to shoot them.

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why not just buy a us-miliatary tank for 20 million dollars and go hunting with it ? atleast you don't have to carry it all day long

I don't see where anyone is suggesting hunting with the 4 bore but if they did, it's not as tho it was developed or used for anything other than hunting. I forget, how much did those things weigh anyway? Ah yes, in those days they had gun bears to carry the weapons and ya gotta believe noone ever shot one prone or off a bench. Boy, would that hurt!

K.K · « **Reply #18 on:** April 06, 2006, 03:31:46 PM »

I have Capstick's book telling the story about Baker's 4-Bore. It fired a 4-ounce ball with (don't quote me on this) 18 DRAMS of balck powder! From his own accounts, it ruined his ability to shoot well. (It threw him from his horse when he fired it). No wonder! I'd probably develop a but of a flinch after lighting one of those monsters off, too.

K.K · « **Reply #19 on:** April 07, 2006, 02:37:11 PM »

I went back to refernce the story of Baker's Gun. It did shoot a 4-ounce (quarter pound!) ball with 16 drams, not, eighteen as i mentioned above. He once shot clear through both shoulders of an asiatic water buffalo, and the ball kepts skipping accross the water for nearly a mile. Selous would wrap the wrist of his rifle with wet elephant ear to prevent the recoi from splitting the stock. I think that I'll keep hunting with my mild cartridges like the 450 Marlin, 300 Weatherby, and 12 guage slug guns.

jro45 · « **Reply #20 on:** April 08, 2006, 10:21:40 AM »

That Bakers gun must be really big. Just think I shoot 2 1/4 oz of shot
in a 3 1/2" shotgun shell and that gives me over 80 ft lbs of recoil. So Bakers gun would probably be about twice that. He must have been really a big man.

K.K · « **Reply #21 on:** April 10, 2006, 08:10:03 AM »

He was a pretty big guy, but remember, we are talking about the biggest bovines on Earth, in the pre-smokeless poweder days. If you wanted to try to tackle on of those beasts, you used the biggest gun you could find. Keep in mind that these were bp percussion muzzleloaders. No spare mag, no follow up shot, you only had the one in the barrel, and hope that the thing went off! Tough men, those early hunters

Hammerspur · « **Reply #22 on:** April 16, 2006, 03:58:57 AM »

How about the story F.C.Selous told of double loading his four bore muzzle stuffer in the heat of fight with a wounded elephant? Powder/ball loaded on top of previous powder/ball load!! :eek:

Knocked him out and dislocated his shoulder, as I recall! Then he had to load up and fire again to finally dispatch the wounded pachyderm...needed to use his bearer's shoulder as a rest for the coup de grace since he had only one functioning arm at the time. :cry:

(from "A Hunter's Wanderings In Africa" by Frederick Courteney Selous.)