:-D :lol: Brett-very funny :lol: Leather is not hard to work. If I can do it ,almost anybody can. Just cut a piece of scrap leather(5 to 8 oz.).Cut it parallel to the butt. Wrap it around and cut it where it is about an inch short of meeting. Punch holes along edge for lacing. Lay fitted piece on a flat surface and cut 1/4 or 3/8 slits to hold 17 or 22 rimfire ammo. Lay out to suit. Punch 1/16 in. hole at each end of slits to keep them from splitting out. Strip of leather across butt keeps holder from sliding forward. I hope this makes sense, guys. Hunman44 :? Sorry! Hunman55