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Offline encore4me

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« on: March 14, 2006, 06:40:39 AM »
What is the shortest you would go one a rifle barrel for your T/C Encore in a .243, 7mm .08 or a .308?




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« Reply #1 on: March 14, 2006, 06:45:31 AM »
have a 16 1/4" in 308 fora pistol but would work for a short rifle. If  rifle only maybe 18". Have a good article on 21 3/4" barrels.
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« Reply #2 on: March 14, 2006, 12:52:25 PM »
I have toyed with the idea of a 308 bull Encore at about 22". I think that would make a nice rig.   KN
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« Reply #3 on: March 15, 2006, 05:59:05 PM »
I have a 19" Custom Shop .308 barrel on my Encore with a bantam stock.  The Encore being a break action is already inherently compact.  With that stock and that barrel is is really nice for hoofing around the woods, and it shoots great.
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« Reply #4 on: March 17, 2006, 02:54:28 AM »
i have used 16.5" barrels in .308 and 7mm-08 as rifles before.  they work perfect, with the same accuracy as factory 24" barrels, but with just a little more muzzle blast.  not much velocity loss either...
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SHORT BARREL RIFLE
« Reply #5 on: March 17, 2006, 03:53:11 AM »
GOOD MORNING ALL!
THIS IS MY FIRST FORUM SO PLEASE EXCUSE ME.
I HAVE A 24" 30/06 STANDARD BARREL GETTING "TRIMMED BACK"
AT THE GS NOW.I DECIDED TO HAVE IT CUT TO 16.5".MY REASONING
WAS THAT IT WOULD MAKE A PERFECT STALKING/STAND RIFLE IN
THE WOODS I NORMALLY HUNT,AND IF NOT I COULD REPLACE THE RIFLE
SCOPE WITH A PISTOL SCOPE AND HAVE ANOTHER HAND BOOMER!
I HOPE THE MUZZLE BLAST IS NOT TREMENDOUS THOUGH! :shock:  WHEN I GET IT BACK(HOPEFULLY NEXT WEEK),I CAN ADVISE MORE
IF YOU LIKE.
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« Reply #6 on: March 17, 2006, 06:53:09 AM »
Welcome 7.62! :D   The shortest barrels I have ever had with an '06 were 20".  Please let us know what you think after you shoot it.
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« Reply #7 on: March 29, 2006, 01:39:18 PM »
I always thought that using my .308 pistol barrell and rifle stock would make a dandy little carbine, but here in NY, I was told that this is illegal.  May not be everywhere, just might want to ask first, and not get into trouble.
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SHORT BARREL
« Reply #8 on: March 30, 2006, 11:56:16 AM »
I believe the FEDERAL LAW concerning short barrel rifle's is NO SHORTER
THAN 16" BARREL AND NO SHORTER OVERALL LENGTH THAN 26". I would however err on the longer side because you never know how smart the fellow reading the ruler is!I believe this would cost approx. 10 YEARS of FREEDOM and a FELONY CONVICTION!NO WORTH THE HASSLE
FOR SURE.Stay legal and keep on shootin!
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« Reply #9 on: April 15, 2006, 03:05:51 PM »
I was told that 161/4" is the FED standerd.For pistols NO longer.For rifles NO shorter. You just may want to find out for sure.pan.
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« Reply #10 on: April 15, 2006, 08:15:13 PM »
Quote from: panman
I was told that 161/4" is the FED standerd.For pistols NO longer.For rifles NO shorter. You just may want to find out for sure.pan.


Panman,

you can legally put a 48 inch barrel on a pistol or longer if you care to but you must have a barrel that is longer than 16 inches on a rifle and it MUST have an overall length of twenty-some inches too (can't remember for rifles but shotguns have to be longer at 28 inches OAL)

Darn Part Timers Disease!
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« Reply #11 on: April 16, 2006, 04:04:32 AM »
PaulS

I agree with you!

If I remember from back when I had an FFL, the rule is as follows!

For a SHOTGUN, the barrel must be 18 inches, minimum!
For a RIFLE, the barrel must be 16 inches, minimum!
Both of the above firearms must be 26 inches overall length, minimum!

For a PISTOL/REVOLVER, the maximum barrel length is 16 inches!


So, a 16 1/4 inch barrel on a pistol "could" land the one in possession in hot water!
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« Reply #12 on: April 17, 2006, 12:16:12 AM »
what about some of the bluntline specials  that were made i read that they were are 18"..... but they are made years ago  before the gov. stuck it's
nose where it don't belong ,
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« Reply #13 on: April 17, 2006, 01:02:18 AM »
Quote from: Chuck White
PaulS

I agree with you!

If I remember from back when I had an FFL, the rule is as follows!

For a SHOTGUN, the barrel must be 18 inches, minimum!
For a RIFLE, the barrel must be 16 inches, minimum!
Both of the above firearms must be 26 inches overall length, minimum!

For a PISTOL/REVOLVER, the maximum barrel length is 16 inches!


So, a 16 1/4 inch barrel on a pistol "could" land the one in possession in hot water!


Chuck,

You are ok until you put the limit on the pistol / revolver. They can have any length barrel you want - you can use a 24 inch rifle barrel on a Contender with the pistol grip but you cannot use a 14 inch barrel with the rifle stock.
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Check state laws also.
« Reply #14 on: April 17, 2006, 04:42:53 AM »
Indiana defines a handgun as :

35-47-1-6. "Handgun" defined. "Handgun"
means any firearm:
(1) designed or adapted so as to be aimed
and fired from one (1) hand, regardless of barrel
length; or
(2) any firearm with:
(A) a barrel less than sixteen (16) inches in
length; or
(B) an overall length of less than twenty-six
(26) inches.
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« Reply #15 on: April 17, 2006, 06:10:46 AM »
I think the discussion is about apples and oranges here.  PaulS is referring to the Federal regulations while others are discussing individual state regs.  To stay out of jail know both if you are going to change barrels.  And count on trouble if you have a rifle with a barrel shorter than 16 inches.
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