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Offline Dusty Miller

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Is this ethical?
« on: April 15, 2006, 10:13:48 PM »
I just watched a bow hunting video that sort of shocked me.  Maybe what I saw was OK, I'd like some feedback.  A guide and his client are out in the wilds of Alaska hunting bears and the guide sticks one in the shoulder, poor shot placement, and the wounded bears heads into the brush.  Shortly afterwards another bear is spotted and the guide turns his attention to this new bear and starts working his client towards it.  It isen't long before the new bear is shot by the client and quickly expires.  Only after taking some time to make a bit of filler for the video does the guide resume attempting to find the bear he shot!  Eventually it is found and all ends well.  HOWEVER!  It just seems to me that once an animal is wounded the guide should expend a maximum effort to find it and make sure it does not suffer unduely or circle around and attack another member of the hunting party (at least three people plus the cameraman were present).  Am I off base here?  Let me know how you feel. NOW!  Go see my April 16, 2:46 PM post, I blew it!! :?
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« Reply #1 on: April 16, 2006, 05:20:34 AM »
If he was a paid guide what the heck is he doing shooting at all when the client hasn't taken one? That would be a first point I'd have clear is that if I'm paying a person to guide me he would not be doing any shooting unless and until my game was dead and cared for.


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« Reply #2 on: April 16, 2006, 05:47:34 AM »
When I read this I had the same question Mr Graybeard did.  Why is the guide hunting? :?

Also if I was hunting Griz with a bow, I would want my guide to carry a rifle, not another bow! :?  About your other question.  I like to wait before charging off into the brush on a wounded bear.  Don't know if I would want to add another wounded one into the mix while I was waiting.?  Without seeing the video it's hard to comment. But Your right the whole thing seem strange. :?

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« Reply #3 on: April 16, 2006, 06:22:58 AM »
Dusty Miller You are absolutly right, The guides first and formost duty is to guide, Not shoot the bear, Second to start another fiasco with a new bear is not a ethical situation, Plus being very dangerous. Sounds to me like he needs to go back to (Guide hunting #1) and suspend his licence until further notice..........Joe...........
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« Reply #4 on: April 16, 2006, 07:06:18 AM »
Well we don't know the set-up the guide and client had. ( And I am not siticking up for the pimp)
Without seeing the video I would guess that they let the bear go off into the brush to die. Have you ever tracked a Brown/Grizz into the alders???
But everyone is right they shouldn't have turned their attention to another bear.
There are laws that mandate what the guide can and cannot do in situations involving a poor shot by the client and protection of life in the field. Maybe this video should somehow find it's way to AKDF&G

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« Reply #5 on: April 16, 2006, 09:29:06 AM »
The video in question is "Pursuin' the Bruin" available from the PSE website.  I'm going to go take another look at it, maybe this guy was just the "lead" for the video and not the guide.  The role he played in the video lead me to believe he was in fact the guide.  Sorry if I screwed up.
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« Reply #6 on: April 16, 2006, 09:46:14 AM »
AAAARRRRGH!!!!!! I did indeed screw up! :cry:  I was in such a hurry to get to the action scenes that I skipped over much of the introduction.  SO, what happend was that the guide ALLOWED a second hunter to stick a bear while a wounded bear was in the area.  I'm not sure this is a question of ethics as much as it is a question of intelligence!!  Keep in mind that I have absolutely NO (as in "zilch") experience hunting bears but I'd be really jittery going after a second bear if a fellow hunter has wounded one in the area I was hunting.
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« Reply #7 on: April 19, 2006, 12:13:08 PM »
In Alaska, Guides are not REPEAT "NOT" allowed to take any game while he has a paying client along.  The first animal must have been shot by another client.
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« Reply #8 on: April 21, 2006, 09:18:01 AM »
But you are allowed to hunt browns with a family resident of Alaska, in which case, the two could both take their bruins.
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